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Posted 13 January 2021 - 08:15 AM

Chasing some pics of a stock standard 173 gtr engine bay

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 10:07 AM

Unfortunate typo in the header..... Made me look though! I have seen an image somewhere though of what you are looking for, will see if I can remember where.



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Posted 13 January 2021 - 10:08 AM

I would have thought same as the 161S minus the rocker cover and air cleaner transfers.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 10:34 AM

Engine only sorry.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 01:50 PM

Im3 sure ive seen some with the heater hoses crossing over tje rocker cover and connecting to drivers side of watwrpump. Is this correct?

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 03:37 PM

I would say they would have used the same outlets and crossed over the rocker cover same as the 161S , at a guess.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 04:13 PM

The 173 GTR heater hoses didn't cross over the rocker cover. One of the reasons I prefer that model.

 

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 06:16 PM

So where do the hoses from the inlet manifold go and heater ? All on the right hand side of the thermostat housing?

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 09:40 PM

So where do the hoses from the inlet manifold go and heater ? All on the right hand side of the thermostat housing?

As far as I know yes, it's as the 72 LJ set-up to the thermostat housing.



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Posted 14 January 2021 - 06:22 AM

Thanks for the help fellas, that clears things up.

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:19 PM

Chasing some pics of a stock standard 173 gtr engine bay

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:33 PM

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 09:52 PM

Same as LJ 202 GTR I believe, as stated earlier. Definitely the tidiest setup but means that when the heater lever is in the cool position there is no flow through the manifold. HD 179X2 also piped this way I reckon, although from the other side of the thermo housing and water pump. I suppose the manifold only needs the flow to warm up quicker in cold conditions, so the heater would be on. I have the same setup in my 179 headed FB ute. Reassuring to know they stuck with this setup.


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Posted 14 January 2021 - 10:01 PM

 Definitely the tidiest setup but means that when the heater lever is in the cool position there is no flow through the manifold. HD 179X2 also piped this way I reckon, although from the other side of the thermo housing and water pump. I suppose the manifold only needs the flow to warm up quicker in cold conditions, so the heater would be on. 

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I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what setting you have the heater lever position in. The water always flows the same, they're no taps to divert water flow. Only flaps to divert air.

Hopefully someone can confirm if I'm talking shite.

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 10:32 PM

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what setting you have the heater lever position in. The water always flows the same, they're no taps to divert water flow. Only flaps to divert air.
Hopefully someone can confirm if I'm talking shite.
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Correct Marty, there are no taps to open or close the water flow through the heater core on an LC/LJ. Every time the engine heats up the heater core heats up.

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 10:49 PM

Thanks for setting me straight. I’m used to the earlier cars where the heater box and core are inside the cabin and probably therefore need to be isolated when not required. It is a tidy setup in any case.


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Posted 15 January 2021 - 07:14 AM

Yes, the above is true.

Back in the day when we all had LC/LJs as daily drivers, a leaking interior Heater Assembly was not influenced by where the 

heater controls were set.  i.e. wet carpet until you fixed it.



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Posted 15 January 2021 - 08:03 AM

Same in the earlier models. The tap doesn't isolate pressure, just flow.

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Posted 15 January 2021 - 01:00 PM

HD 179X2 also piped this way I reckon, although from the other side of the thermo housing and water pump. I suppose the manifold only needs the flow to warm up quicker in cold conditions, so the heater would be on. I have the same setup in my 179 headed FB ute. Reassuring to know they stuck with this setup.


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HD X2 was completely different, firstly there were no hoses connected to the passengers side of the thermostat housing & the heater had a valve.

 

With water heated inlet manifolds it is very important to have good flow thru them all of the time, not just in cold weather.

 

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 06:05 AM

Thanks GTR-1 thats pic i was after. Any idea's where i can get the engine bay decals that are period correct. I know there's a few mobs out there that do them but are some better than other's.

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Posted 17 January 2021 - 05:39 AM

Thanks GTR-1 thats pic i was after. Any idea's where i can get the engine bay decals that are period correct. I know there's a few mobs out there that do them but are some better than other's.

It was a few years ago when I bought my rocker cover decal, cant remember who from. It was probably just off ebay.

Try these guys https://www.grafixun...hb_lc_lj_ta/lc/

He does good work, have bought an old rego and Delearship decal from him



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Posted 17 January 2021 - 11:16 PM

HD X2 was completely different, firstly there were no hoses connected to the passengers side of the thermostat housing & the heater had a valve.

With water heated inlet manifolds it is very important to have good flow thru them all of the time, not just in cold weather.

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Thanks Dr T
Might have to review my setup. Will probably end up with the later head and thermo housing and run heater water pump to cylinder head with the manifold plumbed to the bottom thermostat housing outlets. Top housing gets the idiot light sender although most all the later sixes I have looked at run a short hose from water pump to top thermo housing.


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Posted 18 January 2021 - 07:34 AM

Hey mate. In my humble opinion, the 173S (2850S) was a very rare engine, being only in the LC GTR for approx. July to Dec 1971.

Many owners replaced them with a bigger 202 later on from the then HQ range etc.

I did write a couple of articles/research about the 173S for Hunter Valley Torana Club some time back. PM me if you would like them. Please note, that I only frequent the Forum a couple of times weekly.

 

Cheers Dave



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Posted 18 January 2021 - 08:12 AM

Hey mate. In my humble opinion, the 173S (2850S) was a very rare engine, being only in the LC GTR for approx. July to Dec 1971.
Many owners replaced them with a bigger 202 later on from the then HQ range etc.
I did write a couple of articles/research about the 173S for Hunter Valley Torana Club some time back. PM me if you would like them. Please note, that I only frequent the Forum a couple of times weekly.

Cheers Dave



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Posted 18 January 2021 - 08:14 AM

Thanks dascind i would love them articles pleas,im only fairly new to this, can someone tell how to PM someone please




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