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Posted 06 June 2008 - 08:20 PM

hi all, just got a heap more of mags today for ebay. this one is the best one.
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Posted 06 June 2008 - 08:39 PM

Lucky Ebay :spoton:

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Posted 06 June 2008 - 09:13 PM

that was a good read thanks for posting :spoton: :spoton: :spoton: very interesting

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Posted 06 June 2008 - 10:11 PM

Remember buying that new...then we drove the car..what a let down..
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Posted 08 June 2008 - 10:39 PM

Thanks for sharing Graham :spoton:

Regards .................... Barry

PS ......... Still trying to work out how I can get that HOLDERN SERVICE sign in the back of the Hatch :tease:

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 10:42 PM

Note the L34 is slower over the quarter

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 10:44 AM

Looks like a good Mag

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 06:41 PM

Note the L34 is slower over the quarter

Thats because those great looking driving lights on the L31 make it go faster.... :D

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 06:41 PM

the ignition timing of that l34 must have been off. when my l34 had the standard 253 factory cam in it , it would only rev to about 5400 to 5500 but with all the other gear plus lighter flywheel, no standard 2.78 ratio slr/5000 ever came close to it. but i do admit they were not a rocket until cam and exhaust after extractors were modified and because the twin coil dizzy had no vac advance a double pumper mech sec carb was preferable. and dont forget theres 1/2 a second between 3.08 and the 2.78 ratios over the quarter mile

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 08:08 PM

The point is, with the two cars straight off the factory floor with no mods the L34 was no quicker than a stock SLR5000, actually slightly slower over the quarter.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 03:57 PM

The SLR5000 in factory trim had a standard eight , where the L34 had the big valve heads , cam , roller followers , Holley carb , twin point dizzy

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 04:09 PM

Steve, hit the refresh button m8.

Your pc is 3yrs behind. :)

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 04:39 PM

The SLR5000 in factory trim had a standard eight , where the L34 had the big valve heads , cam , roller followers , Holley carb , twin point dizzy



Hey Steve, slow down on the old updates with half baked info, first holden from the factory with roller followers was the VS and no holden ever had a twin point dizzy factory fitted.

L34 had roller rockers along with twin coil dizzy if thats what you mean.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 06:20 PM

Why did all those apparent engine improvements of the L34 still not allow it to be quicker then the L31 over the 1/4?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 06:54 PM

and no holden ever had a twin point dizzy factory fitted.


this is an L34 dizzy
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:30 PM

no holden ever had a twin point dizzy factory fitted.


I guess we all have to have our share of humble pie at some stage.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:56 AM

Shame the V8 LJ XU-1 Prototype never got to do a test with the SLR5000 and L34, it would be interesting
to see the Qrt Mile time on the Car that Harry Firth was building for the 1972 Bathurst main race,
i reckon a 13 sec Qrt Mile time on the V8 LJ XU-1, And going off the Pink LJ XU-1 V8 that HDT Hotted up
and what Ian Tate says about it in the AMC Mag story on the V8 XU-1 issue 9.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 05:57 AM

I guess we all have to have our share of humble pie at some stage.

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This picture shows ONE SET OF POINTS PER COIL, please explain how that makes this a twin point dizzy???

this is an L34 dizzy
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:09 AM

This picture shows ONE SET OF POINTS PER COIL, please explain how that makes this a twin point dizzy???

There are different types of 'twin point' distributors, after all the title just means that the dissy has 2 sets of points & the overall aim is to increase dwell time.

The very common Mallory 'YL' dissy has 8 lobes with 2 set points which overlap & drive a single coil. This style increases dwell to 32+ degrees but still demands that the coil deliver 400 spark pulses per engine revolution @ 6,000 RPM. A standard V8 dissy, by comparison only has 26-28 degrees dwell.

The L34 style of twin points only asks each coil to deliver 200 pulses per rev (@ 6,000 RPM), the same rate as a 4-cyl, because there are only 4 lobes. The other advantage is less chance of 'points bounce'. Also with only 4 lobes on the dissy shaft, dwell can exceed 40 degrees.

I believe that in the pre-electronic ignition days, this was the superior V8 ignition system.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:26 PM

Why did all those apparent engine improvements of the L34 still not allow it to be quicker then the L31 over the 1/4?

Because the road going L34 DID NOT get the HO pack in general - i.e. the 780 Holley etc.
It was just an L34 block with the Rochester on top (yes that's not 100% correct, but that's the idea).

With the High Output (HO) pack it was a fair whack more powerful.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:52 PM

Because the road going L34 DID NOT get the HO pack in general - i.e. the 780 Holley etc.
It was just an L34 block with the Rochester on top (yes that's not 100% correct, but that's the idea).

With the High Output (HO) pack it was a fair whack more powerful.

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Ah ha! I see.

There is a HO up this way actually.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:18 PM

Having owned both versions, ie standard L34 and HO or (Track Pack) if you prefer, I can tell you there is a world of difference in power and performance. The factory standard air cleaner and exhaust system, ( including the L34 headers) were very restrictive regarding airflow. Tiny inlet on aircleaner snorkel, pea shooter tail pipes and the factory original headers were not the race style replicas you can buy today. 4 primary pipes feeding into a single pipe on each side was not conducive to big power or good air flow. A few well chosen tweaks to the above issues and you could see the Jekyl and Hyde character of this car. Add the 780 Holley and BIG cam available along with the rest of the HO package, you had a potent little car.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 09:12 PM

Holdens made sure any L34 that got to the press was hobbled[retarded timimg] etc they did not want another 150 mph supercar scare to threaten their gov sales. Thats not hearsey thats comes from people inside holden who did not read it in a magazine they controled what the press got hold of and what car and thats a fact, just ask Joe Felice.Its been moved that these people are old and have dementure and don,t remember.What we have to remember these people were there, they were in control ,not writing magazines as nothings changed with journos they just write what they are fed even if it is BS.Its important that what ever is written that it is right because once in print it becomes gospel.How many times have you read that the A9x had twin thermos and extractors.We know its not true but some will say it must be because they have seen it in print.You will always get the experts who buy a 37 year old mag and now they know it all. Started reading a christmas gift Viv Antonios story on the holden V8 and in the first 30 mins found about 4 mistakes so disgusted thats all i read and dont even know were it is now. Thats why i said to Norm you have to get it right as it will become the Bible Also what dissy did LP use exclussively right up until 87 when fuel injection took over,L34 one ? why he considered them superior

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:36 PM

Nicely put Outer. :clap: (The press still works that way today, and not just on car stories).

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 02:25 PM

All this song & dance about a Taxi, gee......

Fact is the factory stock L34 or A9X were a toad.




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