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#251 S pack

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 08:19 AM

 ​Dave its not normal Chalk mate, it be more like welders type chalk marking stuff i assume, and it is a LJ Rat Trap.

And a Person who owns a Special Monaro that GMH owned and Experimental Engineering worked on has the same Pink markings on parts on his Monaro and a Ex Experimental Engineer told him they used Pink Colour to Mark the parts, that is how i found out about it.

I have used engineers chalk (pretty sure I still have some in my toolbox) and it will wash and wear off quite easily so I find it very hard to believe it will still be there on those components after 40+ years.

As I said it is not an LJ rat trap on your GTR. It is off a HT/HG 6cyl.

 

Yes

Talk to Ben

HHS know which 3-GTR's they are,  HDT Took the Pink V8 Prototype to Calder for a Comparison Test on the 31/5/1972, Brocky drove the Pink V8 Prototype and Bondy drove the 6Cyl HDT LJ XU1, No doubt in the month of May is when Ian Tate had it to Drive and Ian said the Pink V8 Prototype only had 6 Cyl rego,

Al, which one of the GTR Prototypes was Harry Firth testing in mid April 1972?


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 05:37 PM

You seem to be getting slightly delusional.

My whole point is that journalists are well known for stretching the truth and embellishing stories to make them read better.

Journalists lie. Journalists misquote. Journalists will voice their own opinions as a twist of something someone has said.

There is no way of knowing the origins of the supposed quote.

SImple as that.

Rob, do you have any proof that this journalist lied about the Police wanting the V8 LJ ???   If you don't, then you need to take him at his word........   sure people lie, you me, everyone..   but to know when they/we are lying..  well, you'd need to be psychic ...    And he may just as well be telling the truth this time..   sorry but it just seems your generalising what you think.  And it really has nothing to do with what is the truth..  :)



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 06:41 PM

Ian without any other proof my opinion is just as relevant.

All it is is hearsay without any actual proof of the conversation.

As far as evidence goes it is worthless.

Did Police communicate to GMH their desire for the cars?

Did the journalist keep his notes on the topic?

It may well be true but there is no proof it is true.

I have also stated that I believe individual cops would definitely want one.

But there is nothing official to back up the statement.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 08:57 PM

Sorry Rob.....  That is just silly.  The Journalist had what to gain by making up a fabricated story on the Police wanting them ??   If you have such a distrust for what this journo said, you must also have a reason behind his deceit..   What is it that triggers your spider senses over what this journo said.  

 

Did police communicate their desire for the cars?  .....   I would say yes, as they wanted the highest performing cars from all 3 big car companies, and got them.

 

Did the journalist keep his notes on the topic?  .....   Again quite possible. It was the early 70's, and everything was written down in full,  or some kind of short hand.

 

It may well be true but there is no proof it is true.  ....  It may well be true, but it matters SFA in the scheme of things, as the cars never went into production. it's just a small  sentence in a much bigger story.

 

Rob, every Highway Patrol Car for as long as I can remember have always been the Fastest and in most cases locally built production cars. Tuned- Tweaked by how much, who knows?. But they have always had the fastest cars Holden, Ford and Chrysler have made.  And there still doing it now..    I'm sure none of us need a Journalist to inform us of that... 

 

  Cheers Rob,  I'm not having a go at you.  and I hope you don't take it that way......    I just don't think casting your doubts,  over the honesty and integrity of the journo,  is any proof against what went into print, and is really unimportant either way..   They may have wanted the GTR-X as well.........  But they never produced them either, so they got the LC Torana..  :)



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:00 PM

You seem to be getting slightly delusional.

My whole point is that journalists are well known for stretching the truth and embellishing stories to make them read better.

Journalists lie. Journalists misquote. Journalists will voice their own opinions as a twist of something someone has said.

There is no way of knowing the origins of the supposed quote.

SImple as that.

You are putting them all in the same Boat ?? so it seems, in your eyes they all do then.  Like Good Cop Bad Cop, no doubt there are some good Journo's as ones that stretch the truth and there are some that report it how it is as well.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:20 PM

Al, which one of the GTR Prototypes was Harry Firth testing in mid April 1972?

April 3 1972 Easter Bathurst Yellow LC V8 HDT Torana (KSN116)

 

Apri 9 1972 Adelaide International Raceway The Yellow LC HDT V8 (KSN116)

 

May 14 1972 Calder, the Yellow V8 LC Torana (KSN116), the yellow V8 LC last outing as in Track Racing.

 all the above were Races and Larry Perkins drove the Car to them Tracks as part of the open speed testing he did while driving them to the above three tracks.

 

The above dates are the Dates that the LC Torana that was in a Yellow Colour that Had KSN116 number plates on it, that car ended up been One of the White 1971 HDT LC XU1's they used in the 1971 Season, a Sales reciept for that Car has been found in recent times, so sorts out now what LC HDT Car it was (Where there was Confusion which LC it was in the Past), GMH sold it to Mollison Motors and it had KSN116 number plates on it, Harry tried to find that LC Car, Harry knew what GMH Dealership ended up with it. Talk to Ben about which Car that had the KSN116 number plate on it that went to  Mollison Motors                                                                                                                                                                                                          

On the 31/5/1972 they took the Pink V8 LJ Prototype to Calder and did a Comparrison Test against the HDT LJ XU1 6Cyl Torana, its in the Brockspeak interview about that test at Calder in the History of Torana Magazine and Harry has it in his Diary the Date on the Comparison Test with Brock and Bond on the 31/5/1972, Brocky drove the Pink LJ V8 Prototype and Bondy drove the 6 Cyl HDT LJ XU1 race car and Harry talks about it in them last stories he did with AMC,  The Brock and I magazine and then the other last one he did with AMC, he says about it in there.

So which GTR are you talking about Dave ?????????? for Mid April 1972. As you keep asking me.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:32 PM

So which GTR are you talking about Dave ?????????? for Mid April 1972. As you keep asking me.

Thanks Al, I was asking cause I wasn't sure which V8 Prototype it was that Harry was talking about in his letter to Joe Felice.

 

I didn't think to go back and look in the articles in Brock and I or History of Torana magazine.

 

Cheers

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