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Posted 25 January 2007 - 02:32 AM

OK 830hp it may take a day or 2 or 3 but that microfish is all we have !!!!!!!!


will do

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 02:40 AM

1972 BATHURST cars could turn out to be worth double or triple that of a 1973 BATHURST. Scarey ey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks 830hp .

Edited by FLY_AGAIN_XU-1, 25 January 2007 - 02:53 AM.


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Posted 25 January 2007 - 03:28 AM




Even AMC makes mistakes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Issue 15 Page 118 AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE CAR magazine ( By The Numbers )

H289651 - H291062 85 examples
L251090 - L252674 66 examples ( 85 + 66 = 151 )

I once wrote to AMC asking them for help in tracking down the pink things history but just got fogged off. A mate who owns the geissler L34 wrote to them once to asking for help in tracking down its history and only got fogged off to. YES, im a little angry at them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But hey they still produce one of the finest magazines in the world ( Even though they do make a few little mistakes from time to time ) and the Australian Muscle Car Nationals is the greatest show on the face of this planet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ay George, dont always believe what you read in books and magazines !!!!!!!!!
( That extra 50 grands not looking good ) Im OUT.

Edited by FLY_AGAIN_XU-1, 25 January 2007 - 03:36 AM.


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Posted 25 January 2007 - 01:22 PM

I thinks its just a fudge thing

1972 LJ GTR XU-1 PRODUCTION FIGURES



BRISBANE

JULY 72 ( 1 )

AUGUST 72 ( 105 )

TOTAL ( 106 )



ADELAIDE

JULY 72 ( 9 )

AUGUST 72 ( 85 )

TOTAL ( 94 )




COMBINDED ( BRISBANE & ADELAIDE )

JULY & AUGUST 1972

TOTAL ( 200 )



I much prefere caramel than chocolate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hold the phone George we may have not lost our 50G after all !!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:23 PM

Tuesday 29-8-72 CAMS gives the go ahead. For the production of the 1972 Bathurst LJ GTR XU-1. ( Fiv book, page 191 )

Fly again,

I think you might be misinterpreting what this line means, Cams was acknowledging on the 29th of August 1972 the fact that GMH had submitted the paperwork to tell them that the production run of Bathurst XU 1s had begun. It doesn't mean that the 29th was the day that GMH started the Bathurst run.

Also bear in mind that the Bathurst cars needed to be homologated by mid September to be eligible to enter the Sandown enduro which is the traditional lead up to Bathurst.

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:36 PM

After a bit of research I think the Bathurst cars were probably made somewhere in the range of H243361 - H250907 for Brisbane and L210096 - L216000 for Adelaide. I think the run may have started around the middle of August.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 04:47 AM

Tuesday 29-8-72 CAMS gives the go ahead. For the production of the 1972 Bathurst LJ GTR XU-1. ( Fiv book, page 191 )

Fly again,

I think you might be misinterpreting what this line means, Cams was acknowledging on the 29th of August 1972 the fact that GMH had submitted the paperwork to tell them that the production run of Bathurst XU 1s had begun. It doesn't mean that the 29th was the day that GMH started the Bathurst run.

Also bear in mind that the Bathurst cars needed to be homologated by mid September to be eligible to enter the Sandown enduro which is the traditional lead up to Bathurst.

CK1971.

Im sure you meant the start of the Man Champ series which started on Sunday
27-8-1972.

Amendment 1/1V 1/7/1972 - Final drive. Variation in supplier. May be either
" Borg Warner Limited slip " or " Detroit No Spin "

Im sure the first batch ( 200 ) July, August, 1972 were also going to become the XU-2,s with the second batch begining September 1972. These 'specials within a special' were sold as ordinary XU-1,s.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 05:02 AM

I recon we can add about an extra 250,000G George !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 10:46 AM

Question : What is a 72 Bathurst XU-1 ?

Answer : A car built in the months of July, August, September 72.

Question : How to identify a 72 Bathurst XU-1 ?

Answer : A car built in the months of July, August, September 72.



Thankyou !



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Posted 26 January 2007 - 04:24 PM

Question : What is a 72 Bathurst XU-1 ?

Answer : A car built in the months of July, August, September 72.

Question : How to identify a 72 Bathurst XU-1 ?

Answer : A car built in the months of July, August, September 72.

Fly again,

This is what I have been told on a number of occasions but in my opinion I don't think this is exactly right. A few years ago I had a very close look at two unmolested standard XU1s from the Brisbane plant, they were both eighth month and they were made four days apart, one was definitely not a Bathurst car while the other looked very much like it was. The one I thought was a Bathurst car was also a one owner vehicle.

In my opinion I think it is unlikely that all cars that came out of Adelaide and Brisbane in August and September of 1972 are Bathurst cars. GMH may have put 200 sets of Sprintmaster wheels on XU1s produced during this time as they already had those wheels left over from the ill-fated V8 XU1 programme but whether all the other mods made it onto those 200 cars I think it is debatable. This is my opinion only but GMH had been known to fudge the figures on more than one occasion before and after, you only have to look at the A9X production figures to see what I mean.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 06:05 PM

Still working out the PRODUCTION FIGURES for 1972 !
Only just got my copy !
Anyone HELP ?

Please dont start on A9X,s ck were having enough trouble with the 72 Bathurst XU-1,s ey 830hp & we have,nt even scraped the tip of the iceburgh with the 73,s yet let alone the 70 & 71,s ! :+1: :wtf:

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:21 PM

After a bit of research I think the Bathurst cars were probably made somewhere in the range of H243361 - H250907 for Brisbane and L210096 - L216000 for Adelaide. I think the run may have started around the middle of August.

Christ I'm getting excited..my XU1 was built in Brissy 25 August 72 and I would love to know what else apart from dual exhaust brackets designate the V8 shells.....awesome research :clap:

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:05 PM

Tuesday 29-8-72 CAMS gives the go ahead. For the production of the 1972 Bathurst LJ GTR XU-1. ( Fiv book, page 191 )

1972 LJ GTR XU-1 production figures

ADELAIDE


SEPTEMBER ( 157 )



{ WEDNESDAY 30-8-1972 ( 1 ) }


FLY AGAIN,
Where does this information come from,my car was built on the 29/8/1972
does ythis mean mine was the only one built on this date?

{ WEDNESDAY 30-8-1972 ( 1 ) }

Regards,
George.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:03 AM

VEHICLE MASTER LISTING-I thought everyone had a copy ? You see them on ebay all the time. PRODUCTION FIGURES + C.A.M.S HOMOLOGATION = ANSWERS

29-8-1972 = Finished ( Not started, I believe ? )

There were only 2 on this date built in Adelaide, 0 in Brisbane.

82911JL213383 JP202472 SOLD 8-72 DEALER 066
82911JL213534 JP202486 SOLD 8-72 DEALER 000

There is a good chance one of these cars may have race history !


25-8-1972

There were only 4 on this date built in Brisbane, 4 in Adelaide.

Brisbane built cars

82911JH246328 JP208260 SOLD 10-72 DEALER 901
82911JH246350 JP208465 SOLD 9-72 DEALER 622
82911JH246434 JP208245 SOLD 9-72 DEALER 032
82911JH246450 JP208510 SOLD 10-72 DEALER 863

With some HELP im sure we can get to the bottom of this once and for all !!!

I need production figures from other members to compare my figures with, can you HELP ?

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 09:17 AM

Yep, that's me...Dealer 901 :spoton:

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:22 AM

Could anyone clarify the final drive ratio of BIG B 72 XU1's. In Fivs book it state 3.36:1 L.S.D with options of 3.08:1 and 3.55:1 L.S.D . Does this mean that any one of the 3 with the other improvements is classified as a Big B 72 XU1.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:46 AM

The reason I ask is the general concensus seems to favour the 3.55:1 LSD as being the definitive Big B 72 XU1, whereas the facts seem to tell another story :blink:

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 11:55 AM

I know Brocky and Bondy turned up to the first round of the manchamp series on Sunday 27-8-1972 with new paintwork, sprintmasters and a locker. Bondy finished 1st , Brocky 2nd ! ( ANYONE GOT ANY PICS ) Dont know about the cam, springs & flywheel though !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amendment 5/5V 29-8-1972

Just scraped in George !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:12 PM

Bear with me Fly...It's all new to me. So the homologation 72 Xu1's which carry the title Bathurst Specials did in fact have the option of either of the 3 diff ratios and depending on what option you took they are entitled to carry the mantle of Bathurst XU1's.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:41 PM

Yes, I think so !

The last 2 were built on Wednesday 30-8-1972

82911JH246466 JP207108 SOLD 8-72 DEALER 865 ( BRISBANE )
82911JL213537 JP202427 SOLD 8-72 DEALER 435 ( ADELAIDE )

0 Were built on Thursday 31-8-72

Combined, Brisbane & Adelaide produced a total of 200 lj XU-1,s in the months of July & August 1972.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:48 PM

So now I can be reasonably authoritative when someone bags my 3.36:1 as not being a real Bathurst Special...appreciate your responding Fly...cheers :spoton:

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:50 PM

Bear with me Fly...It's all new to me. So the homologation 72 Xu1's which carry the title Bathurst Specials did in fact have the option of either of the 3 diff ratios and depending on what option you took they are entitled to carry the mantle of Bathurst XU1's.

Maybe even the title XU-2 !

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:52 PM

Yeah my blood pressure goes up whenever I think about what may be parked in my garage....can't wait for the upcoming instalments to this mystery :clap:

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:53 PM

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 01:08 PM

And concerning identifiable tips re: Specials. This was submitted by LC/LJ NUT of Melbourne in May 2003 on this very forum.

Run hand under lip of guards. The Bathurst models have had the edge lipped up to accomodate wider tyres..both front and back.

Lift the bonnet and check the welds up the gutters on the side. The Specials have a heavily spot welded shell for strength.

May Help!!




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