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Bathurst 1977 Brock A9X Hatch P&P Brock?

Started by _LXChev366_ , Feb 14 2007 09:14 PM

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#1 _LXChev366_

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:14 PM

Does the (below) Brock "Bill Paterson Racing No 25" white, blue and yellow 77 Car still exist? or is it now painted in another paint scheme?

http://home-and-gard...048877407QPqlpF

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:18 PM

I believe it is still around. Fred Gibson raced it after Brock

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:19 PM

Now that would be a good replica...
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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:22 PM

Thanks Red... gee that was fast... I was thinking of you replying to this when I typed it.
I was just curious thats all ... so the car and paint scheme still exist... I thought maybe it might have been updated and painted to another team colour maybe... being a 77 car... with Brock going back to HDT...
well there ya go.
Thanks

Now that would be a good replica...
R

Yep it has crossed my mind :rolleyes:

Edited by LXChev366, 14 February 2007 - 09:24 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:32 PM

It exists and is in Canberra.

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:51 PM

Always been a favourite and is shortlisted on my Targa Hatch, pending sponsors.

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:53 PM

Nah! Welby!...Go the ciggys and piss everyone off like me! :spoton:
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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:53 PM

Same scheme in the sedan is one of the 2 I'm tossing up for mine too

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:55 PM

That is one of my favourite all time Bathurst/Brock cars, just looks great with the Brock Brock windscreen banner. I have it as my desktop wall paper and the Biante model above my PC in teh study..

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 11:35 PM

RED is that the car Tony S owned??

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 06:05 AM

Nope, Tony's car was not the Brock car, it was Marshall Brewers car painted up in the Patterson colours (Marshals car was plain white with red flairs and looked boring) because Tony got some information saying the car was originnally one of the Patterson spares, I was told it was HDT. Marshall Brewer missed out on getting one originally and went down to the factory jumping up and down, so a spare was sourced from another team. As for the patterson cars, a guy contacted me a few years ago and he had just bought a car but wasn't sure what he had, after a few pictures and things, turned out he had the spare Patterson hatch, never raced, but kept as a spare. The car they raced is still around I'm told, and yes I was told Canberra as well. I have a pretty good idea who owns it, he has owned a couple of other ex race cars.

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 12:18 PM

Have you ever spoken with Marshall Brewer?

Tony's car spent many years in Whyalla with a guy called John.
John club raced it in the 80s and he spoke of a similar story to yours above.

From my memory it was this way.

Marshall wanted a car at the same time Peter Brock returned to HDT from Pattersons. The Patterson's car destined for Peter was the car marshall got! So as I said similar to your story but best to ask Marshall Brewer.

What Patterson's hatches raced? We all know about #25 but I am sure I have seen old pictures of #5 as well.

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 01:39 PM

I've never spoken to marshall Brewer, i spoke to Mike Prowse about it. All I can say is this. Brewer walked into Mikes office apparently jumping up and down and going on like a lunatic about not getting a car. Mike Prowse said he called someone (I think Bruce Nowacki's name came up as he owned a warehouse at the time) at a warehouse and said he was sending Bruce and his mechanic down and to give them a car. As far as I know, Bill patterson only ever raced the one hatch. Brock used it at sandown and bathurst in 77 and a few other rounds. When Peter left at the start of 78, Phill took over and the car was raced by him for a few rounds and later sold to Joe Moore? who owned the St Georges tavern and raced under that banner by Fred Gibson. Pattersons had at least one other spare, I have seen pictures of the car, but it was never raced or race prepared. It's quite posible the shell was taken from the patterson team, who knows, that would mean at one stage they had at least 3 hatches if that was the case.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 10:31 PM

I have a pretty good idea who owns it, he has owned a couple of other ex race cars.

Yup.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 10:55 PM

i have a pic of that car i took at a car show

time to start searching


i will get back to you

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 09:24 AM

I'd like 2 c that.^ :D

Edited by LXChev366, 17 February 2007 - 09:24 AM.

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 07:42 PM

Looks like its raised its head.....

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 07:22 AM

Bloody hell Welby, this thread is 2.5 years old...As I read the title I thought yep I will see what this has to say...then I realised I started the thread....so whats the goss?

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 08:40 AM

Pretty sure I have a pic of that hatch racing at a group c meet a couple of yrs ago, Ill try find it and put it up.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 07:47 PM

I fell across the thread looking for something else,

But, as noted on a new fresh thread, it has surfaced.

RED has the goss, but he's not sharing :tease:

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 07:52 PM

Dont know if it is the original, but looks like it was running in group C.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 10:49 PM

Thats Tony Sawfords car, it's not the Brock hatch, its the ex Marshall Brewer car

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:51 PM

I just got the shock of my life reading this thread,
I didn't realise how old it was till I seen my post ,

Time to start searching my old memory cards , now I really need to find that pic

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:30 AM

Slack mate, real slack. Poor buggers have been waiting....... :P

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 08:45 PM

Pretty sure I have a pic of that hatch racing at a group c meet a couple of yrs ago, Ill try find it and put it up.


Would be quite interested to see it if you can dig it up.

What Patterson's hatches raced? We all know about #25 but I am sure I have seen old pictures of #5 as well.


From the information i have found it looks like they only raced one hatch although i have seen it with three different numbers on it

http://rjphotography...thurst19770019/


http://www.autopics....c.html?cache=no

These first two are of the car at Bathurst in 1977 which would have been its second race after the Hang Ten at Sandown. I put these two pictures in as i've always been curious about why the HF1000 sticker moved from the guard to the door?? May have just been put on in the wrong place but am pretty sure the 4 doors ran with it at the front so cannot figure it out, any ideas??

http://www.aussies-o...t/Torana75b.jpg


Not sure where this one is taken but obviously ran as the 05 at some stage. Think i have a picture of it at the island and Morwell hill climb wit 05 on it.

Interestingly raises another question, P Brock ran with the 05 number on the L34 then appeared to change to 25 for maybe two races and then back to 05 again. Just checked a copy of the original Bathurst manual and its got John Goss with cars 4 & 5 so maybe BPR couldnt run these numbers?? (It's good when you answer your own questions isn't it)

http://www.oldraceph...6124_N_PBroc_78

This is of the car back at sandown i assume early 1978 with Phil driving it.
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