Jump to content


Engine no restamping


  • Please log in to reply
50 replies to this topic

#1 _LH JAKE_

_LH JAKE_
  • Guests

Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:56 PM

Hi all, my block in my slr5000 has some corrosion were the original engine no is and is very hard to read.Can you smooth it off and have it stamped again with the same type of stamps as original?

#2 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:39 PM

Nope, you cannot. Can you still read it?

#3 _LH JAKE_

_LH JAKE_
  • Guests

Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:50 PM

Hi, yes you can just in some spots just thought it might be a simple thing to do if poss.Just a bit worried that if i try and clean it up too good i might make it worse. Thanks Jake

#4 rodomo

rodomo

    To advertise here, call 13TORANA

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,418 posts
  • Name:R - O - B Dammit!
  • Location:Way out west of Melbourne Awstraylya
  • Joined: 10-December 05

Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:16 PM

Maybe use CRC / WD40 and a scotchbright pad rather than wet and dry or other such abrasive?
After clean up, a squirt with clear to protect it.

#5 orangeLJ

orangeLJ

    Yes, yes I do post alot!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,256 posts
  • Joined: 02-May 06

Posted 30 October 2007 - 09:14 AM

Are you asking "can i physically do it" or "can i legally do it"

nothings illegal till you get caught..... :tease:

#6 FastEHHolden

FastEHHolden

    Steptoe

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,114 posts
  • Location:Central Coast NSW
  • Joined: 16-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 10:21 AM

Especially with an SL/R 5000 you run the risk of devaluing the car...If a buyer suspects the engine number is dodgey (whether it is or isn't) they aren't as likely to pay as high.

#7 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 10:52 AM

The thing is, you can't get the correct stamp to do the job, so it's going to look dodgy. Romomos suggestion is the best, or perhaps even a light acid to clean it up then protect it with WD40

#8 GML-31

GML-31

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,239 posts
  • Name:Kev
  • Location:Highland Park
  • Car:too many
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 10:57 AM

so in the event you get your block decked????? what are you advising then.

#9 _threeblindmice_

_threeblindmice_
  • Guests

Posted 30 October 2007 - 11:07 AM

Don't expect top dollar if sold !

#10 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 11:18 AM

so in the event you get your block decked????? what are you advising then.

All I could advise is make sure you don't get that part decked. A decent engine builder can deck your block without taking the number off. If you are unlucky enough to have bought it like that or have already decked it, well what threeblindmice said, don't expect top dollar. You could restamp it, but it won't look right.

#11 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,240 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 30 October 2007 - 04:30 PM

so in the event you get your block decked????? what are you advising then.

All I could advise is make sure you don't get that part decked. A decent engine builder can deck your block without taking the number off.

I have never seen a block decked that didn't need restamping.
Gem and the like do 100's a month.

#12 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 04:45 PM

Really? Well I've had both mine decked and they avoided that area. I guess it comes down to who does it and the care taken. It's hard to find good help these days huh. Places that do hundreds like GEM are in it for the money of getting exchange engines out the door, if you take it to a decent engine builder and request the number not to be removed, they can do it. Considering what some of these cars are worth today, imagine getting your engine back with the number gone.......

#13 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,240 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 30 October 2007 - 04:50 PM

the number pad is on the same plane as the deck, either you had your block angle decked, the machinest set up sepciffically not to machine the numbers, leaving a step on the deck or you did not witness the restamping.

#14 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 04:58 PM

It's very simple really, you set up the machine not to machine that area, so you can end up with a small step. I was very luck with both my blocks, they were near perfect so no noticable step, and they were not restamped.

#15 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,240 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 30 October 2007 - 05:05 PM

No problem, did not say it could not be done, just never seen anyone that fussy to put a step in the deck lol.

#16 surfmaster

surfmaster

    Marineboy

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,019 posts
  • Location:Nowra N.S.W.
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 08:47 PM

At todays prices it pays to be fussy.

#17 _moot_

_moot_
  • Guests

Posted 30 October 2007 - 08:58 PM

it also pays to have the same stamps as holden. if you know the right people :<_<:

Edited by moot, 30 October 2007 - 08:58 PM.


#18 Bomber Watson

Bomber Watson

    Not nearly as smart as Lazarus

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 20,583 posts
  • Name:DJ
  • Location:Rockhampton, the exact center of my own TINY universe. Also the home of the worlds longest location.
  • Car:Mixed fleet of Taxi's and hair dresser mobiles.
  • Joined: 07-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 09:47 PM

WD40, Scotch Brite, and a wire brush.

That'll f*ck it.

#19 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 30 October 2007 - 10:12 PM

it also pays to have the same stamps as holden. if you know the right people :<_<:

Hmmm great more Hillbillys

#20 _SSL31_

_SSL31_
  • Guests

Posted 30 October 2007 - 11:52 PM

You still have the cast date to go off and the reciept with the engine number from the decking , to get the perfect deck you have to mill it true centre which means taking off the numbers , depending on how deep the stamping is and how much you have removed to aquire to perfect tunnel to deck level you sometimes can get lucky and still retain faint numbers. You can get near to spoton number stamps to holden if you look hard enuff and theres nothing wrong with have the block restamped if you have to...So if anyone one had ideas of restamping a non torana block with a HT number it will and can be found out by ways and means. Just to clean the numbers I d use a 3M disc wizza/gasket remover buff.

#21 _moot_

_moot_
  • Guests

Posted 31 October 2007 - 06:44 AM

it also pays to have the same stamps as holden. if you know the right people :<_<:

Hmmm great more Hillbillys

no,just the proper way of doing it legally.

#22 TORANASS

TORANASS

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,503 posts
  • Location:Melbourne. Craigieburn
  • Car:Red LX SS Hatchback
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 01 November 2007 - 04:57 PM

The propper and legal way is by getting VP numbers restamped on your block after your original number is gone.

Well thats here in VIC anyway once your number is removed your not allowed to restamp it, allthough that doesnt make it right in many peoples minds it is the law.

Sad but true

John

#23 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 01 November 2007 - 07:14 PM

YEP, IN nsw IT IS NP. Legally you can't restamp a block or anything else for that matter

#24 _moot_

_moot_
  • Guests

Posted 01 November 2007 - 09:46 PM

you may want to check up on that. mine has been done and i asked the rta. all i needed was i letter from the machine shop saying that the number was removed and restamped in the machining process.

#25 Heath

Heath

    I like cars.

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,226 posts
  • Name:Heath
  • Location:South Eastern Suburbs, Melbourne
  • Joined: 07-November 05
Garage View Garage

Posted 01 November 2007 - 09:58 PM

^ That is how it should be, but are all machine shops in an adequately authorititive position to be given that responsibility?




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users