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#1 _Yella SLuR_

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 05:46 PM

Interesting day at the wreckers. I found out that behind the UC vents, there is indeed the LH-LX heater box. Also, you can use the 2 way directional UC vents on your LH/LX centre vents.

Now here is the interesting thing. I'm keen to know what your car has.

My LH has 2 directional vents on the centre vents like the UC, and a lever on the side to operate the flap thing.
The centre vents from the LX doesn't have the lever for the flap thing, and the centre vents are the one directional, spin like they are possessed vents like the two side vents.
The UC has the two directional adjustable vents, but no flap lever either. I'm told these are also the vents fitted for cars with A/C, as this UC did have.

Now wondering what my car should have. What model is your Torry, and what vents do you have in the middle?

Gonna go check the manuals as well.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:26 PM

LH, lever on side, no spinning.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:35 PM

Yeah, that's what I have Arrimar in the LH. LX was missing, so wasn't sure, but looks like spinning type is correct for non A/C LX and UC. None of my books show this part in a drawing or photo, except EPTOR which shows UC with spinners??? Very confused.

The good thing is, that spinners or 2-way type, they are interchangable.

I think the LX spinners are in the wrong way, as they both point towards the centre, where I would of thought they should point away from the centre.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:41 PM

My UC has the "spinner" type, no aricon

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:48 PM

Thank god for Spotlight on LH/LX.

It looks like, LH --> 2 way adjustable
LX & UC - No A/C ---> Spinners
LX & UC - A/C ---> 2 way adjustable.

UC also has a different cowling to hold the vents to do with the redesigned dash, although the same size, and kept in place with two screws at the top.

That's the theory thus far, although with no documentation, hard to tell.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:51 PM

I have no idea whats holding mine in place though, both those screw mounts are broken on mine

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:57 PM

You can have this one if it helps, it has one still there, one broken. Looks like you could double side tape it where it hits the dash, maybe that's what is holding it there.

LH/LX ones just slide in from the passenger side.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 10:31 PM

The adjustables were for air con only I believe.

I think that's the case for LH/LX & UC. Non air used the 'spinner' type.

Fit in the same holes.

I have a set. (of adjustables) Now I just need a car to go around them!

What about HQ, HJ, HX & HZ side vents? will they go in a UC side vent aperture?
By that I dont mean the bit they snap in to (spinner type) but the moulding
in the dash pad?

Hang on a sec.. aren't the side and centre spinners the same part?
Therefore could you not put adjustables in the side vents too?
Now I want another set.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 11:16 PM

No, I'm pretty adamant that LH aren't the spinner type. It's also pictured that way in Spotlight on Torana, although it's hard to tell, as in all cars and literature from GMH they are photographed in the open position. I had to look for the notched wheel at either end.

Don't know about the side vents being the same size, would have to look, but it is possible. I suppose that is why I find it so weird, I'm use to them being either side, but not in the middle.

It's not overly important, just don't want people saying my race car isn't 'as it came from the factory'.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 12:31 PM

:useless:

Pics would help understanding what your trying to explian.
My brains not working this morning.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 04:23 PM

Today is a non car day. I'll take some pics next car play day, which could be as soon as tomorrow (woohoo!!!).

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 05:22 PM

It's not overly important, just don't want people saying my race car isn't 'as it came from the factory'.

You're running a heater on the race car?

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:41 PM

Years ago my brother had an LH with "spinners"
The foam/felt seal around the out side to seal it was non-existant.
You could drive down the road, give it a flick and it would just keep "spinning" in the breeze.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 09:08 PM

^ yes, LH has spinners on the sides, driver's side is possessed.

Heath, yup, I'm running a heater, it's optional if you do or don't, but I am. Doesn't affect performance, and I don't like relying on goop on the windscreen to keep it demisted. It doesn't come at a cost to performance, so I want it.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 10:35 PM

Hmm I guess I'd be too concerned about the weight, but fair enough. Less holes to fill anyway :P

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 12:13 AM

Hmmm that humble pie tasted goood!

Had a looky at a few LH brochures and the adjustable type was there
in print. Not the spinner.

Well, when I eventually get that UC hatch, it will have adjustable type
in it when I swap them.

As for my other comment, I have been out of a torrie for too long.
Of coarse the side vents are different to the centres. I would still like
to see if hq adjustable side vents went in to the dash pad hole of a UC.
(again, not the bit the spinner goes in to, the dash pad. Would make it look flush)

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:16 AM

^ nearly all the photo's in Spotlight on LH/LX Torana have the spinner type photographed in the open position, so it's hard to tell which type they are.

I've always had LH's, so when I saw the LX one I thought, hold on, that's not right.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:58 AM

Leakey, meh, don't get to bothered by it, it happens to all of us, at least your prepared to make a contribution, so that's great.

OK, I did an early morning run down to the shed.....mmmm, the smell of fresh Torrie in the morning.

Taking pics of em, especially with the flash, you realise how dirty these things are.

Here you go:-

LH Centre Vents, with side flappy thing.
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LX/UC Centre Vents - Spinner Type (No A/C) - Closed
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LX/UC Centre Vents - Spinner Type (No A/C) - Open
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LX/UC Centre Vents - Airconditioned (UC vent surround pictured, one broken lug)
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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:55 AM

Not my information but I believe that all of this is correct.

Ill refer to the four types of vents as 360 swivel side vent, 360 swivel centre vent, vert/horiz centre vent, vert/horiz sidevent.

The aircon systems use a non closing centre vent. They are adjustable both vertically and horizontally. This was for all models LH to UC. It is not advisable to put these into non aircon models as then there is no way of stopping ram air getting into the car if this is done. The aircon models have a separate flap for this behind the non closeable vents.

The side vents in the UC models with ac are vert/horiz closeable(these may indeed be the same as for VB comm and kingswood, the non a/c models are 360 swivel. They can be interchanged as the aperture is the same size. Im not sure but believe the LH, LX only had swivel for side vents regardless of ac.
The centre vents are a different length to the side vents and cant be interchanged.



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Posted 28 January 2008 - 01:05 PM

Good info Heath - was about to cut and paste myself.

Yella beat me to the pics! But I'll post one anyway.

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In YELLA's pics I see the 'lever' on the side of the vent cowl.
Now that would be a non air con car. No? These vents cannot close,
and as such need a 'flap' behind them to be closed to stop air flow
as a result of the car moving forward. Rammed air.

The air con cars had a vacuum controlled flap. (I know LX does)

I have never seen the manual handle. I also noted that one of those vents
has been pulled a part at some stage, and the order of fins changed. I believe
they have the knob in the middle. Who cares!! just noted.

Now on the UC pic, does that have a handle also?!! I thought the UC and LX
aircon units had built in vacuum controlled flap to stop ram air?

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 06:30 PM

LH definitely had the ones you've pictured, two-way adjustment. Flap behind stops flow, and also like slamming shut when you hit a good size bump....grrr...

Every LH I've owned has had this set up, so pretty sure that quote is not correct. LH owners manual page 36 also shows two way as standard LH fitment, and spinners for the sides. Explains my surprise seeing it in the replacement I got from the wreckers. Never seen it before.

LX changed to vacuum control of the flap, thank god. Never really sure what the flap does, but I think it is closed, face/vent, floor, but never really sure.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 06:38 PM

Here you go, page 36 of the LH manual. I'd appreciate if somebody could do the same with an LX manual. I've never owned LX's. Spose that makes me a very one eyed (for the LH) Torana owner.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:58 PM

Thanks for the pics Pat. i wasn't aware of the differences in air vents.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 11:17 PM

Here you go, page 36 of the LH manual. I'd appreciate if somebody could do the same with an LX manual.

Wha? What LH manual? Page 36 in my GMH LH manual is finished talking about locks and has finished with ventilation by Page 36. :fool:

AFAIK there was no LX manual made, only 3rd party...

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 11:57 PM

Heath its the owners manual, you know the little one that should be in the glove box.

Here's the LX owners manual pic.
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This is the non air type, they are directional, by rotating them 180o will change the direction to the left or right only.

This is the Air Con type as shown in the back of the GMH/LH service manual which is the same as LX.
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The same as Leakey's pic's

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