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#1 _Mondie_

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:46 AM

l was wondering if the A9X experts could help me out with some advice on what components are the hardest to pickup these days for an A9X. l am looking at several cars at present and am trying to gauge what parts are most critical and difficult to replace so l can judge the relative price of each car.

Parts such as the Master Cylinder, correct Thermo and brackets, 14" steel wheels with correct numbers, radiator tanks, overflow bottle/brackets, brake calipers, suspension components, original fuel tank, brake ducts, original body kits etc.

After seeing this thread it got me wondering just how difficult it is to source some of the correct and significant A9X components.

Cheers Simon

Edited by Mondie, 14 February 2006 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 14 February 2006 - 05:23 PM

You link does not work !!

All the bits you mentioned are certainly rare & nearly impossible to get. Things like master cylinder some times come up on Ebay. I think last one was late last year and if my memory is correct it went for around $800. Some XC falcons had the correct type (casting etc) but different crack pressure (Dattoman would be better at explaining this one !!).

Radiator, correct offset GTS rims, correct overflow bottle virtually forget trying to get original. Fuel tank is same LX type. These items certainly do increase the value of car, as ones without cannot command top dollars.

After market brake ducts, front spoilers are all fibreglass and easily picked from original plastic items.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 06:24 PM

Im no A9X "king" but I do know them.
Seeing as the A9X has every mechanical part on its car being "individual" to the A9X only, I think anything A9X is rare.

Starting with the diff (saw one for $3000) its different, the master cylinder, the wheels are super hard to get, there is nothing special about there fuel tanks, there just plumbed up differently, although not sure what the little canister box in the boot is out of if its the same as any other holdens or not.

In short we could be here all day, if the car your looking at is missing any of the A9X "only" parts then there all rare and you have as much luck trying to find the right thermo fan as you are an original flare.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 06:31 PM

You link does not work !!

How weird, that link takes you to Bill's website of all places :blink: This was the thread on brake ducts;

http://www.gmh-toran...wtopic=2632&hl=

So the fuel tank is stock LX, thats good to know with the number of cars that have picked up a drop tank over the years. Could you clarify, all bodykit components should be plastic not fibreglass, would that be correct?

Thanks Simon

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 06:59 PM

Flares should be fibreglass, front and rear spoiler are plastic (rear on a hatch is fibreglass) brake ducts are plastic.

As for the rarest part, I'd say radiator, the core was unusual and irriplacable. You can make wheels to make them look right, and originals do come up every now and then. At least wheels don't wear out like radiators and other parts.
You can resleave the mastercylinder if you have the original.

Plastic front spoilers are impossible to find, but some fibreglass ones are good copies.
Fans are easy to get, and brackets can be made. You could get a diff made up, but most cars still have the original. Overflow bottles are available, it's the original style cap thats hard to come by, and you can make brackets.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 07:12 PM

Thanks Red, thats great info. l guess the very rarest part, the radiator, is the one that almost no car would still retain. Are the top and bottom headers unique in some way or is it just the fine core radiator itself?

Cheers Simon

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:42 PM

Where are you Simon?

The A9X club is National so you may be able to take along a member to help point the finger at things on these cars you are looking.

Through the club you may be able to source some items/info if you are at the right place at the right time. Basically no chance if you are not in the loop.

Agree with Big RED as to most things can be fabricated if you have the skills and resources. Some club members sometimes arrange limited runs to make things affordable for themselves or even make them themselves and a few extra but this is not advertised generally.

The radiator I would consider consumable overtime if you drive it and there are basically no replacements available. The original has fins stacked in SSSSS shape where as the modern replacement is WWWWW shape. There are more fins per inch than stock too. Nice to (Like a piss in a wet suit) have but the car still runs fine with another unit.

The over flow bottle cap I have seen crack with age or the heavy hand. Repco has an equivalent bottle but the cap in modern and different. Still functions as per original.

If you are purchasing as an investment, then the more original the better. Mind you I think you may have missed the boat.

If you are purchasing to drive, I would be more concerned with ensuring that it IS an original car that is sound. To save frustration, you may have to accept the fact that these cars have been around nearly 30 years and that things wear out. Better a car you can be confident in to do all you ask of it than a car frail with age and no maintenance because you are afraid to wipe off the finger prints of the Holden production line work who built it. Yes people do get that ANAL.

But hay that's my 2 cent (sorry it's 5 cents now) worth and I am happy to shove it anywhere you ask:)

Cheers

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:44 PM

P.S. With the price those brake ducts went for. Big RED will have plastic reproductions available at the end of the week at $500 buck a side. :)

Edited by The Baron, 14 February 2006 - 10:45 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:06 AM

You Know something, I might just have to look into that.

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:28 AM

one thing to note here, like RED said the brackets can all be made, the original brackets look like they were made in someones backyard with basic workshop tools. Not the best quality brackets, just thick guage steel.

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 11:46 AM

Burying operation in progress.....

#12 _Mondie_

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:47 PM

Burying operation in progress.....

There is :huh:


Thanks for the advice guys, l will be looking at several cars next week and the advice above is valuable in the hunt for the right car.

The Baron > l am located in Gippsland, country Vic.

Cheers Simon

Edited by Mondie, 15 February 2006 - 01:48 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:29 PM

If you were talking about what you'd expect to see on an original A9X vs eg a replica, then I'd reckon the steering arms, followed by the emissions evap box, plastic brake ducts then radiator core. It's true that the radiator core is rare these days, but as far as I know the core wasn't unique to the A9X (have seen at least one on an HX with A/C).

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:50 PM

If you were talking about what you'd expect to see on an original A9X vs eg a replica, then I'd reckon the steering arms, followed by the emissions evap box, plastic brake ducts then radiator core. It's true that the radiator core is rare these days, but as far as I know the core wasn't unique to the A9X (have seen at least one on an HX with A/C).

Dave, I have also seen the core PATTERN in other cars, but the thing is, once it's recored, it's gone for good. I'm surprised you saw it in a HX with aircon though, as they had the bigger radiator in most cases.

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 10:53 PM

Master cylinders are easy
I have 5 now.......lol
Just need to "A9X" them

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Posted 26 September 2020 - 11:49 PM

Any Images of your Work Datto ?



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Posted 27 September 2020 - 08:45 AM

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Posted 27 September 2020 - 09:46 AM

I think original water pumps would be rarer to most as they wear out over time. They are similar to L34,, although they have dual outlets like later models, wheras L34 is single

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Posted 27 September 2020 - 09:52 AM

ER70H14 original tyres that are roadworthy.

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Posted 27 September 2020 - 07:37 PM

Weren't they D70H14 on the A9X, same as L/34?

By the way I have a NOS Olympic Steelflex ER70H14 tyre sitting in my garage, still has the rubber nipples on the tread.

Certainly not roadworthy though due to it's age



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Posted 27 September 2020 - 08:26 PM

I think you are right. ER70H14 was the Holden tyre on Rally rims. Torana were smaller.




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