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#1 Com_VC

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:03 PM

Hi,

Was just wondering if there any any cams available off the shelf to suit a turbo holden 6? I've looked through a few websites of some common manufacturers but couldn't really find anything except naturally aspirated stuff.

I was considering using a vk efi cam as they are meant to be a pretty good match for forced induction so i've heard but dont really want to take a risk with second hand stuff.

Any suggestions/advice etc would be good. If any more details are needed let me know.

Thanks in advance

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:23 PM

Wade Cams 259a or 242a
Crow Cams 5651
These cams work really well in turbo holden 6s

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:40 PM

I've actually got a new wade 259a here that was given to me many years back, I didn't even consider it because years ago I think I asked a similar question and I got told no.

Have you had experience with using this cam behind a holden 6?

Thanks

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:46 PM

Speco-Thomas used to make them and I believe those same grinds are now available from Motor Improvements in Melbourne.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 08:15 PM

Found the specs of the wade 259a.

Ex .267, 63-27, 199 duration @.050, 110 lobe sep
In .268, 25-64, 199 duration @.050, 110 lobe sep,

Might give Motor Improvements a shot.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 08:29 PM

i'd look at something with 114 lobe sep. 220@50 and near 1/2" llift. good for a streeter

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 08:33 PM

Have used all 3 of these cams and they all work very well.
what manifolds are you using and is it carby or efi.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:04 PM

VK EFI intake, custom turbo manifold

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:16 PM

Have you got the exhaust manifold made or is it still a planning thing....I still need to get mine made...and there was a minor blowup last time custom exhaust manifolds was discussed on here.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 10:27 PM

Ring Camtech and tell them what you are doing and they will grind you a cam to suit.

http://www.camtechcams.com.au/

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:51 PM

Have you got the exhaust manifold made or is it still a planning thing....I still need to get mine made...and there was a minor blowup last time custom exhaust manifolds was discussed on here.

minor blowup?

What kind of intricacy were you looking at for the manifolds, my old boy might be able to do something for you if you need it, just give him a bell.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 04:54 PM

yeah it's made, it's just a log manifold. This is my first one, i'll be doing another for the next motor which will be better and hopefully go together a lot quicker the next time.

I'll be building two motors as I have a few bits lying around. The first will be the prototype to sort out any issues etc, second more serious :)

Out out interest coupe202 what sort of power where you making with the 259a and what where the specs of the motor etc. Also efi or carby?

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 07:12 PM

Engine spec were 186 block with 202 pistons .040 up head was ported and running no divders in the inlet ports spring presure was 120lb at the set. yella terra rollers.
The engine was running a quadie carby. Power figure not sure. The engine was in lj the car ran 12.2 with 15psi. Thats with 259a wade cam.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 05:56 PM

nice time, gotta be happy with that.

I might make a few calls to see if I can find something better if not I�ll throw the wade in.

I'm hoping for around 200rwkw initially.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:16 AM

I got info for my cam today from Camtech and this is what they told me

Our part number CT35 - 619 will suit your turbo 202 perfect.

Duration at 50 thou

241 Intake
232 Exhaust

Lift at valve with 1.6 rocker

508 Intake
493 Exhaust

Lobe separation 114




Price:

Camshaft $242.00

Seamed like a good price what do you think?

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 11:11 AM

pretty bloody close to the specs i mentioned..
price is about right,

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:23 PM

They didn�t tell me how the motor would behave, but I expect it to be rough down low and spin the turbos quick.
My car wont be on the road much but I'm hoping I can drive it on the street without to many problems.
Going by their other cams its in-between a stage 4 and 5.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:39 PM

114 lobe centres will still leave it quite nice at idle, maybe a tiny lope.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 05:25 PM

Talk to Wade about a 259 AX. this is very similar to a 259A.hopefully some one will remember.if not i can give you the specs.it works.the car will be easy to drive.

Edited by mervex, 27 June 2008 - 05:28 PM.


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Posted 27 June 2008 - 05:44 PM

wouldn't mind seeing the specs mervex.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 04:02 PM

I experimented with a few cams years ago. For a good cam with EFI more duration in the exhaust and around 113-114 lobe centres. You gotta know where to put the opening and closing points.

I dont reveal my specs as took a bit of dosh working out what worked but I can grind you the same cam I got in my 500rwhp turbo tory.

Alot of cam companies really dont know what works with turbos. They will grind you something that they think will work.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 04:07 PM

turbo torana would you be able to supply the same cam as you run in yours but in a solid profile and how much do you charge.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 05:51 PM

I only do billets at about $268 plus $25 postage. I dont do regrinds, too much hassle with postage (my cam grinder is in the east, I am in WA) nothing wrong with a regrind for a 202.
The cam I do is 214 deg duration at 50 thou so its not a small cam. I use rhoads lifters and with these they idle nicely. With the solids just a bit more lopey.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 09:06 PM

hi gentleman i may be off topic here. i am thinking of turboing a red six. are manifolds available ? what turbo to use ? not looking for big horsepower just a quick weekend warrior. any help appreciated wayne

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 04:05 PM

turbotrana: Would I get away with using your cam with normal hydraulic lifters instead of the rhoads?

2ELCS: carby or efi? Second hand manifolds are usually available on ebay to suit a carby setup.




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