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I'll show you how I cut guards from start to finish

Started by Ruts , Jul 29 2008 05:27 PM

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#126 avoz

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:33 PM

Hi guys, looking at flaring a hatch soon (SYDNEY)

Two questions -

1) Flare Kit from TarenPoint

(http://www.ebay.com....bu6pKEagKVPNmtw) do any of you have these on your hatches? And how do they compare to WIDE A9X ones versus standard ones?

2) Who is Sydney can you recommend for quality fitment including cutting guards?

And yes have read the older threads, keen to see current what people are doing having seen so many hatches lately with flared guards, am assuming there is a bit of restoration going on in the community!

Thanks a lot

Mark

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#127 dattoman

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:45 PM

They are a good kit

Orange car in pics used to belong to a member here (and now belongs to another)... minor tickle ups as expected... but good kit

Talk to the man who started this thread... he's in Syd... might do it for you or point you somewhere

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#128 avoz

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Posted 15 July 2017 - 08:53 PM

Thanks mate

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#129 _ginoSLR5000_

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:28 AM

G'day all, first an apology for taking so long to get thing rolling, I work shift work and sometimes it slows thing down a bit in the shed. I'll just have to give up work I suppose.

Anyway this is the first instalment of many in regards to certain paint and panel issues and I hope that someone out there may be able to benefit with some of the knowledge that I have gained after 18 years in the paint and panel industry. As the title states this is an article on fitting flares and cutting front and rear guards on a LH/LX four door. Now I don't pretent to be the guru in regards to carrying out this procedure and I know that there will me many who may disagree with the way I do things and that's fine. Over the years I have seen many many different ways to do this. I have seen some very ordinary attempts that should never see the light of day and I have seen some that look amazing, just have a look at LITRE8's car, a very professional job. The idea of the this article is to give others an insight in what can be achieved with a little careful planning and a touch of elbow grease so that you may feel a bit confident in tackling this job yourself. It's not that hard and if your prepared to take the challenge then the finished product will be very satisfying. As I go through this process PLEASE, if anyone has a better idea and thinks that I may be doing things wrong myself then tell me, I will not be offended by what you have to say and maybe I can learn a few things from others as well. Please keep in mind that I ma doing this job on my days off and it may take a week or two to get through the whole procedure. So grab a drink and sit back and enjoy this first instalment.

First a little background on this car. It belongs to fellow forum member who is getting this car ready for plenty of street driving and a little bit of track work. As this is not my toy I will keep a few things to myself about the owner and what has been done to the car but in short it's an LH four door fitted with a 350 Chev, toploader and nine inch diff. The car has flares already fitted with guards cut but after closer inspection we found that most have to be redone to bring it up to scratch. I know the owner will be reading this but I don't apolgise for expressing my anger in regards to the butchers who last worked on the bodywork.

To see the pictures more clearly click to view the full size.

Here's the car,

As we all know if you want bigger wheels and tyres you need to fit a set of flares to keep things legal and under the protruding bodywork. But when flares are fitted you also need to cut some of the body work away so that when the car moves or you put heavier loads in or you turn the front wheels you have ample clearance.

The front of the car has been fitted with 15x8 wheels and on full lock the wheels rub on the inner floor.

This is the front with the wheels removed. You can see the shiny bare steel where the wheels have rubbed.

Whoever put the flares on this car previous should be drawn and quartered. The fitment is very second rate. Have a look at how far down the front flare sits at the rear, very untidy.

The rears are not much better than the fronts. Have a look at the fit on the passengers rear.

Here's the driver's size

Anyway time to close this one so that it does not exceed the allowable whatever.

Hi Rut
Can you please activate this post so I can get the photos that relate to the post

Regards Gino

Hi Rut
Can you please activate this post so I can get the photos that relate to the post

Regards Gino

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#130 StephenSLR

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 08:41 AM

Hi Rut
Can you please activate this post so I can get the photos that relate to the post

Regards Gino

It's not Ruts deactivating his post. Complain to photobucket, it used to be a free service and now they want to charge 499 USD per year per member to host their photos on other websites. Ruts and many others won't pay so now you can't see thier pb pics that have been shared to forums.

A damn shame, it's basically killed off so many forum threads around the world.

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Edited by StephenSLR, 15 January 2018 - 08:43 AM.

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#131 _mickyb!_

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:48 PM

Anyone save the photos of the front guards cut ?

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#132 StephenSLR

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 10:36 PM

http://www.gmh-toran...hotobucket-fix/

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#133 _Shelly`s LX_

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 04:14 PM

Hi everyone, just want to let everyone know that I have a forum members car arriving on 8/8/08 so that I can cut his front and rear guards. It's an LH/LX four door and I will be posting all the pics on the site so that anyone can see how I do the job and hope that others will benefit.
Ruts

hi is there any instructions on how to do front guards and firewall ? need to do mine

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#134 Bigfella237

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:08 PM

Whenever I've done them I try to cut away as much material as the flare will cover, especially at the front lower corner where the flare meets the spoiler...

With the firewall, it depends how radical you want (or need) to go, most people just hammer the flange flat so the tyre may still hit but doesn't get cut.

I went searching back through Heath's thread for the 'proper' way to do it but a lot of his earlier photos are gone so not much help any more. :sad:

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#135 _livo74_

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 11:07 AM

couldnt agree more with andrews guide.

cut guard as shown!

and, yep, firewall had to be knocked back further in mine.

cant believe some people dont have to RECESS AND knock back, like i did.

(or my hotwire 8" 225/60/14's tyres would be scrubbing on full lock big time. barely a cm gap spare as it is.

though with 225/50's... maybe not, i guess??)

and other side

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there are at least 10 threads with pics of others doing theirs on this site, check them out!

a google search using some key words.( try a mixture of other key words also and other threads should pop up.)

https://www.google.c.....0.gyKEbaiEih0

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#136 _livo74_

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 11:11 AM

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#137 _livo74_

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 11:23 AM

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#138 Bigfella237

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 05:36 PM

Some nice work there Mat. It should also be said that anything you do in this area must be sealed up water tight as it will cop high pressure water being flung off the tyre when driving in the rain.

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#139 _livo74_

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 08:01 PM

cheers andrew

think i did enough with my guesswork, or at least a good try

(metal fibreglass etch filler over top to smooth and fill, etch prime, then chassis black, then tar stuff)

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#140 _livo74_

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 08:07 PM

(after my immaculate* rewelding, obviously.)

*lol

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#141 _Shelly`s LX_

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 05:21 AM

Some nice work there Mat. It should also be said that anything you do in this area must be sealed up water tight as it will cop high pressure water being flung off the tyre when driving in the rain.

in the rain oh no she doesn`t like rain

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#142 _livo74_

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:22 AM

something i wish had known before mounting flares...

or

had waited till had bought tyres/tested wheel size.

anyways, whether it was just MY flare kit, or too large tyres, OR flare kit had warped??sucked in on itself after years of being unmounted..

i wish i had done this

and not saying push towards rear AND front.. enough to warp flare

..but just a cm either end. will be glad you did.

(numerous threads indicate is not just me that had issues)

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#143 Ruts

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:28 PM

Well it's been a long time since I've been on this page and I see all the photos have disappeared. Stay tuned folks I'm about to do a complete new thread on fitting front and rear flares as well as cutting the guards.

Watch out for a complete new thread coming soon.

Ruts.

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#144 avoz

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 03:49 PM

Thanks Ruts, looking forward to it - I know I have asked a lot of questions over the years and have not yet flared - too nervous to pass my car to just any panel beater to hack my clean guards and am always sitting on the fence as I am sure it is going to cost lots of $$ to do the fabrication work, respray, wheels and tyres!

Do you do this work for a fee for fellow members?

Anyone else on here fit these flares professionally in Sydney with experience?