Jump to content


Photo

[Torviki] Identifying your LH/X


  • Please log in to reply
136 replies to this topic

#1 enderwigginau

enderwigginau

    Admin Wrangler

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,000,527 posts
  • Name:Grant
  • Location:Brisneyland
  • Car:76 LX Sedan, 4 seater
  • Joined: 04-February 07

Posted 19 March 2006 - 10:52 AM

Article title: Identifying Your Lh/x
Article description: Understanding the your LH/X by the numbers
Category: General LH-LX-UC
Date added: Jul 29 2008, 10:52 PM
Article starter: enderwigginau

The ID plates, Chassis and Eng numbers can tell us important things about our vehicles, and even confirm the originality or authenticity of our machines.

Looking from the front of the car, the plate on the firewall are, from left-to-right:

Safety Compliance Plate (ADR plate) on the left,
VIN Plate in the centre, and the
Body Identification Plate on the right.

Safety Compliance Plate
(Location: Drivers Side Firewall)
The ADR plate includes manufacture dates, model name
and style (eg. LX Torana Coupe) and serial number.

Example -

THIS VEHICLE WAS MANUFACTURED BY
	  GENERAL MOTORS-HOLDEN'S PTY LTD
TO COMPLY WITH AUSTRALIAN DESIGN RULES-NOS.

	   1,2,3,4C,5B,6,7,8,10B,11,12,14,15
	   16,18,20,21,22A,23,24,25,27,28
					HOLDEN
				LX TORANA COUPE
9-75							  ALX000011A
GVW			LBS		   SEATING CAP. 5
THIS PLATE IS AFFIXED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE
AUSTRALIAN MOTOR VEHICLE CERTIFICATION BOARD.

ADR's - JULY 76 on will have 27A.
Make - HOLDEN
Model, Name and Style - LX, TORANA, COUPE
Month and Year of Manufacture
Vehicle Serial Number
Seating Capacity


Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)
The VIN Plate Includes alot of info about the vehicle.
It is a 14 character code.
Example:
8D77TFJ496723X

8 - GMH, all Holdens start with 8
D - Series/Degree of Luxury. B = 'S', C = 'SL', D = 'SL/R' or 'SS',
G = 4cyl 'S', H = 4cyl 'SL'
77 - body style, 69 = sedan, 77 = coupe/hatch
T - engine code, T - 308, R - 253, L/M - 202, D/E - 173, Y - 1900cc
F - Year, E-75, F-76, G-77, H-78, changes 1st Sept. for year 1Sept. to 31Aug.
J4 - Assembly Plant and Production Line, H1-4 = Bris, H5-9 = Syd,
J = Dandenong, L = Adel
96723 - Sequential Production Serial - assigned to all vehicles regardless of type, so this was the 96723rd vehicle produced at this plant.
X - Model Code designation for each model programme, eg. LH - H, LX - X



Body Identification Plate
The Body Identification Plate is stamped with a bit of info.
From Top to Bottom,
MODEL: - for example LX8VD77: LX = Model Series, 8 = Manufacturer as above, V = 6&V8 (U = 4cylinder), D = degree of luxury as above, 77 = body shape as above.
LX69STYLE is a replacement shell.

BODY No.: - eg. 496723M which corresponds to the VIN, M indicating Melb Plant. NASCO here is for a replacement shell.

TRIM: eg 1916-18X, Slate Black vinyl & cloth trim.

PAINT: eg 568-17777, Papaya. PRIME if a replacement shell.

TOP: if the top was a different colour or had a vinyl roof, it is marked here.

Then across the Bottom,
ENG. eg.L31 TRANS. eg.M21 RR.AXLE eg.GU7

ENG. = L16 - , L18 - Opel 1900 4Cyl, L20 - 202 6Cyl, L23 - , L31 - 308 V8, L32 - 253 V8, L34 = High performance 308 V8 - LH only, LD1 - 173 6cyl, LD2 - 173LC?.

TRANS. = M15 - , M20 - std ratios, M21 - close ratio V8 box, M40 - Trimatic, MC2 - , MC6 - Opel 4spd, MC7 - Super T10, rare as rocking horse shit to be on this plate.If you find a car with this, contact RedA9X immediately.

AXLE. = GU7 is 2.78:1, GU4 is 3.08, GV4 is 3.55 or 3.36?, GU8 is 3.9?, what was 4.11?, G70 is 2.60 (available in Salsbury/A9X only)

To be Continued.....



VIEW ARTICLE
Identifying Your Lh/x



#2 _Keithy's_UC_

_Keithy's_UC_
  • Guests

Posted 19 March 2006 - 03:20 PM

Good work mate, makes things easier for some to understand now!

Keith

#3 enderwigginau

enderwigginau

    Admin Wrangler

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,000,527 posts
  • Name:Grant
  • Location:Brisneyland
  • Car:76 LX Sedan, 4 seater
  • Joined: 04-February 07

Posted 17 April 2006 - 12:31 PM

To be transferred in:-
=============================================
Axle Codes......
=============================================

Grant..

#4 _JBM_

_JBM_
  • Guests

Posted 04 May 2006 - 11:41 AM

Bs and Ds could be confused on the VIN plate so check the Model No on the Body ID plate as well.

8VD69 = SL/R
8VC69 = SL
8VB69 = S

8VD77 = SS
8VC77 = SL
8VB77 = S

#5 Tiny

Tiny

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Administrators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,018 posts
  • Name:Tiny
  • Location:Sydney
  • Joined: 04-February 07

Posted 25 May 2006 - 02:31 AM

Ive been contacted by HG350 - Peter and Millissa and i was asked to let everyone know that they are able to, and offering to verify the VIN on these special cars for you.

As far as i'm aware, They have access to the original Holden records and so can confirm the authenticity of a certain car by all its numbers.

Please begin by PMing HG350 with all the rellevant numbers so that they can do their checks, but if you havent gotten a reply within a few days then they have allowed us to post their mobile numbers to contact.

Peter mobile 0417 867 974
Millissa 0431 22 22 46

PLEASE do the right thing by these great people who have given us this great opportunity to make the right decisions when buying a possible investment vehicle!


They have done this because theyre very busy people and often dont get to check the forum on a regular basis.
I urge anyone who's going to purchase a car of value like an XU1 or GTR to contact Peter/Millissa as they can give you the lowdown on your prospective purchase!

Cheers and thanks again to Peter and Millisa for their kind offer of this invaluable assistance!

Regards
Tiny.

#6 _omy355_

_omy355_
  • Guests

Posted 22 June 2006 - 06:44 PM

Hi Guys, I'm only new to the site and the Torana scene but I have an issue with SS ID's. I've been looking for a ridgey SS for some time now in decent condition either project or turn key. I was just wondering if someone can tell me what this hatch is as the numbers are a bit confusing (or shonky) they are as follows

VIN-8D77RG J54954X
PAINT- 568-15991
TRANS-M20
ENGINE-L32
BODY-54954M
MODEL-LX8VD77
BUILD-11-76
CHASSIS-BLXO 26262M

Now I know all the tags say it's a 253, 4 speed black ss but do all these correspond to the chassis number in anyway?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

cheers

#7 Toranavista

Toranavista

    'Let There Be Rock' 1977

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,862 posts
  • Location:CANBERRA
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 22 June 2006 - 07:06 PM

The chassis number given should match the number stamped on the drivers side ADR tag. There is no other cross reference apart from checking the micro fiche.

#8 Dr Terry

Dr Terry

    Technical + Numbers Guru + Moderator

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,020 posts
  • Location:Eastwood (Sydney) NSW
  • Joined: 13-November 05

Posted 23 June 2006 - 10:20 AM

Hi Guys.

That's not quite correct, Toranavista. There are other cross checks you can do.
For instance the model code on the VIN plate should match the model code on the body ID plate, I've seen many that don't. Also the year code letter in the VIN should line up with the compliance date. The engine code letter in the VIN must match the 2nd letter in the engine prefix. One more, is that the 1st letter of the chassis number e.g. ALX or BLX should line up with the compliance date as well.

This is the reason we ask for the info off all 3 plates as well as the engine & chassis numbers, so we can do all of that. You can also check stuff where a guy might have a very early engine number in a late chassis etc.

Dr Terry

#9 _vtss_

_vtss_
  • Guests

Posted 08 September 2006 - 08:57 PM

Bs and Ds could be confused on the VIN plate so check the Model No on the Body ID plate as well.

8VD69 = SL/R
8VC69 = SL
8VB69 = S

8VD77 = SS
8VC77 = SL
8VB77 = S

hi their what should g/pak be 8VB69 OR IS IT 8VD69 THANKS

#10 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Inactive
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 08 September 2006 - 09:38 PM

8VB69

#11 Peterpilot

Peterpilot

    Forum Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 185 posts
  • Name:Peter
  • Location:Sydney
  • Car:SS Hatch
  • Joined: 09-January 06
Garage View Garage

Posted 07 December 2006 - 04:44 PM

I found an LH/LX/UC Centre Plate ID Checker that is helpful:

TORANA LH / LX / UC VIN CHECKER

I believe this site is run by a forum member, so I hope it's not a repost.

Cheers,
Pete

#12 _tazidvl_

_tazidvl_
  • Guests

Posted 12 February 2007 - 03:14 PM

What is the axle code for an A9X, just wondering???

#13 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Inactive
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 12 February 2007 - 04:22 PM

The axle code refers to the ratio, not the type of diff. 2 ratios were available in A9X, 3.08 (GU4) and 2.60 (G70)

#14 _holdenjamie_

_holdenjamie_
  • Guests

Posted 24 April 2007 - 03:50 PM

hey guys i have a torana and i was wondering if anyone can help me out with this stuff i have on the compliance plate, no idea what it is

MODEL: LX69STYLE
BODY NUMBER: NASCO
PAINT: PRIME

?? any help would be appreciated ??

#15 MRNOS

MRNOS

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,364 posts
  • Location:Brisvegas
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 24 April 2007 - 03:54 PM

Hmm thats a replacement gmh shell, a mate bought 1 awile back, but his model number is 8VD69-which is a SLR

#16 yel327

yel327

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,731 posts
  • Joined: 10-February 08

Posted 30 July 2008 - 01:44 PM

Nice work to author(s).

One important omission, you might want to add words about the paint combination colour, in the example 1916 on the TRIM line has nothing to do with the trim itself. This confuses plenty of people, and probably rightly so. And maybe also explain the prefix of the Dulon paint formula ie 568 = solid colour, 567 = metallic etc.

Also noticed thers are a few missing codes for the BODY plate (although some are export only):

L16, LD2, L23 for Engine;
M15, MC2 and MC6 for Transmission;
GV4 and GU8 for Rear Axle.

Again, good job to whomever has started this.

#17 MRLXSS

MRLXSS

    The Render Garage

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,339 posts
  • Name:Matt
  • Location:Upwey, Melbourne
  • Car:355 LX Hatchback, LX SS Hatch, VY Cross8 Crewman
  • Joined: 09-November 05

Posted 30 July 2008 - 02:37 PM

very good things to add, yel327, you should be able to edit the wiki for us. just do it using this link http://www.gmh-toran.......ticle&id=11

#18 _JBM_

_JBM_
  • Guests

Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:27 PM

T10 was only a dealer fitted option for A9X, therefore would not appear on body plate, ever.

James

#19 enderwigginau

enderwigginau

    Admin Wrangler

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,000,527 posts
  • Name:Grant
  • Location:Brisneyland
  • Car:76 LX Sedan, 4 seater
  • Joined: 04-February 07

Posted 31 July 2008 - 12:49 PM

Never got around to finishing it in the last incarnation of the forum, although it was complete on a board before that.

As I am aware (RedA9X to confirm) T10 is on one, possibly two cars, one of which is an A9X sedan.

As said, adjust where necessary, but donot change the format. My intellectual property might get a headache. :P

Grant..

#20 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Inactive
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 31 July 2008 - 04:59 PM

T10 was only a dealer fitted option for A9X, therefore would not appear on body plate, ever.

James


MC7 would never appear on a road car tag, but race shells are a different story. The sedan Grant mentioned is a race shell, not a road car.

#21 yel327

yel327

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,731 posts
  • Joined: 10-February 08

Posted 01 August 2008 - 02:42 PM

I read somewhere ages ago that the 'V' in LX8VD77 etc was something about vehicle size.
Intermediate from memory.


V sort of changed. This is how they ended:

T = Gemini, started with TA Torana.
U = Torana ie LH, LX, UC however Torana started as V ie VD69, VC77 etc.
V = Commodore ie VB, VC, etc
W = Holden ie HQ-WB. Doesn't show on HQ but from HJ on they are WM69, WQ37 etc

V continued onwards into VN through to VE. W started up again with later Statesmans.

#22 enderwigginau

enderwigginau

    Admin Wrangler

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,000,527 posts
  • Name:Grant
  • Location:Brisneyland
  • Car:76 LX Sedan, 4 seater
  • Joined: 04-February 07

Posted 04 August 2008 - 03:19 PM

Not very big mate, but we're putting up good fences. :P

MC7 is also the Super T10, not your run of the mill T10......
Must remeber that for adjusting the article.

Grant..

#23 _77hatch_

_77hatch_
  • Guests

Posted 26 May 2010 - 12:47 AM

hows it going all

just about finished the paint on my hatch , reading the identification section

the vin number reads 8c77LH -----------
which the H means 78?
the i.d plate reads 12/77
all other numbers match , plates chassis number etc etc

is that a common thing to occur??

cheers

Hi Guys.

That's not quite correct, Toranavista. There are other cross checks you can do.
For instance the model code on the VIN plate should match the model code on the body ID plate, I've seen many that don't. Also the year code letter in the VIN should line up with the compliance date. The engine code letter in the VIN must match the 2nd letter in the engine prefix. One more, is that the 1st letter of the chassis number e.g. ALX or BLX should line up with the compliance date as well.

This is the reason we ask for the info off all 3 plates as well as the engine & chassis numbers, so we can do all of that. You can also check stuff where a guy might have a very early engine number in a late chassis etc.

Dr Terry



#24 Toranavista

Toranavista

    'Let There Be Rock' 1977

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,862 posts
  • Location:CANBERRA
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:26 AM

The GMH year calender for compliance commences Sept each year. So a vehicle complianced Dec 77 would have H as the year code.

#25 _08TOR_

_08TOR_
  • Guests

Posted 15 July 2010 - 10:04 AM

Hi All
New to the site.
I just spotted a LH Torana on Ebay and the bloke is stating it is a factory V8. He has pictures of the all the Comp plates but I'm not sure that they are orginal. The ADR plate says it was built in 5-74 but going by the vin plate code of 8B69RF J496924H the F means it was made from Sept 1975 to end of Aug 1976. Am I right about that going off the info about codes on this site. Does this mean the vin plate and model plate are off another shell???????
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item3a5cc56e6a




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users