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Posted 19 May 2009 - 08:52 PM

I was thinking today following a VE GTS..with 317KW/425HP...why not just get a reliable current Chev alloy engine and drop it into HDT 2?...It would be interesting to say the least..total reliability...under stressed...low ratio diff.... it would go like a farken rocket with 1200kg body??..Yes??
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:44 PM

And you could also do this to it:

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:52 PM

I was thinking today following a VE GTS..with 317KW/425HP...why not just get a reliable current Chev alloy engine and drop it into HDT 2?...It would be interesting to say the least..total reliability...under stressed...low ratio diff.... it would go like a farken rocket with 1200kg body??..Yes??
R

What are ya waiting for, stop talking, start turning spanners

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:54 PM

Why stop at LS3, next gen LS7.........

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:56 PM

You guys are nuts!

I like that! LOL

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:57 PM

Dont do it, to me part of the apeal of your cars is what the look like if they were modified in a non period way then they just would be real.

certinly I think the idea is good and have been thinking if I ever get the chance to do another one that is how I would do it but not to a period car like yours, just my opinion, I am sure however what ever you do will be a top job

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 10:35 PM

one of these, paint her red and none one will never notice http://www.comeracin...loy/streetcarb/

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 10:48 PM

Do it, you know you want to,
Just dont open the bonnet when you take it places, let people wonder.
Every time I drive a VE HSV I wish I had a LS3 in the racecar for the same reasons you said.

Talking to a few people, all you need is a better sump , stronger pushrods and valve springs (for reliability) and you'll hose off most 355s that have had hours and hours and many $$$ spent on them.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 11:16 PM

Its funny you mention that Rory, I was thinking the same tonight!
A few mods and 500hp+ easy, should be reliable too.
If I ever put an 8 into the LX, it'll be a new generation engine.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 11:59 PM

What about one of the newest products in the GM Crate range the LS3 376Kw/515Hp Carbureted Engine comes with "Hot Cam"
Here is a link to an ebay sale with controller for electronics but Eagle Auto parts advertise them on the back of Street Machine
LS3 376Kw/515Hp

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 07:31 AM

i looked at the LS7 before just goin for the LS1, the LS7 will set ya back about 13k just for the motor bit outta my price range but will accept loans for you nice ppl :spoton:

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 08:42 AM

why not just get a reliable current Chev alloy engine and drop it into HDT 2?...It would be interesting to say the least..total reliability...under stressed...low ratio diff.... it would go like a farken rocket with 1200kg body??..Yes??
R


The lighter alloy engine will also improve handling and braking so numerous benefits.

Just with an exhaust and LS1 edit tune you should have far more hp at the wheels than what toranas raced with and maybe a much lighter flywheel will be all thats needed.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 09:42 AM

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 09:52 AM

Great idea i recon the LS3 is 270rwk ish Exhaust and tune and you will have 300rwkw DO IT!!

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 11:39 AM

LS2 in early VE clubbies were pulling 225 to 230 rwKw with manual box.
By comparison VE SS with L98 was pulling about the same off the floor with manual. Auto cost about 10 on average.
Dont know if HSV are quoting more power with the LS3.
With just an exhaust, my VE SS pulled 260 rwKw. A mate with a Clubby was embarassed on more than one occassion.
We were looking at CAI and a tune and reckoned we would crack 300 unopened.
Unfortunately I no longer have the car.
It was great fun to drive especially with ESP in off.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 12:14 PM

I've have seen an LS7 in and LH torana when I was on Holidays in QLD last year. Nice car, recons it went hard too.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 12:19 PM

LS9???

The LS9 is a 6.2 L (6,162 cc/376.0 cu in) supercharged engine, based on the LS3; the LS7 block was not used due to the higher cylinder pressures created by the supercharger requiring the thicker cylinder walls of the LS3. Cylinder dimensions are now 4.06 in (103.25 mm) bore with a 3.62 in (92 mm) stroke. It is equipped with an Eaton four-lobe Roots type supercharger. Power output is 638 hp (476 kW) at 6500 rpm and 604 lb�ft (819 N�m) of torque at 3800 rpm.



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Posted 20 May 2009 - 01:05 PM

What about LSX ?????

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 01:17 PM

LS"X" means, the X gets substituted by 1,2,3,4,7,9 etc etc... The LS is the family of the motor... LS1 etc basically is the equivalent of L31, L32, L34 etc that is stamped on the tags.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:06 PM

No, that is not the case.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:11 PM

elaborate for us Heath

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:16 PM

No, that is not the case.


Are you talking about the racing block one?

http://en.wikipedia....ki/GM_LS_engine

Commonly, LSX refers to what i said before.

Edited by MRLXSS, 20 May 2009 - 04:17 PM.


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Posted 20 May 2009 - 05:17 PM

Yeah I'm talking about the racing block one.

I think they are a full motor, like a CRATE motor or something. Heads with extra head bolts and shit. Designed for tuning, like bigger pockets for large diameter valve springs and stuff. Mainly for boosted applications I think? That is what the market is all about in america I believe.

Edited by Heath, 20 May 2009 - 05:19 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2009 - 12:28 PM

mmmmm boosted v8............ love it....

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:17 PM

I am sure with the right sump it would be a piece of piss...$4k...no worries...as stated the extra weight saving is the bonus..remeber Lotus' theory?..HP plus lighter weight and brakes?..No one will touch it....plus..what do you do?...Change oil and plugs every now and then...this needs some more thought......
R

Edited by rorym, 21 May 2009 - 09:18 PM.





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