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#1 _gen3torrie_

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 01:22 PM

as it says above gang getting a 2100kg load rated heavy duty bar fitted to the commy would that be enough to tow a tandem trailer loaded with my torana??

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 01:24 PM

Tandems from Servos and stuff, weigh from 700-1000kgs

Full weight V8 Toranas are about 1250-1400 depending on what motor, diff, gearbox etc are in them.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:05 PM

Purpose bult tandems may be much lighter, mine weighs in at 340kg..... I think the 'general' legal requirement is that the combined weight of trailer and car being carried must not exceed the weight of the towing car?

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:15 PM

The weight of the trailer (700-800 kg) and the load (LX ~ 1200 kg according to the DPI) can not exceed the manufacturers specified towing capacity or the unladen weight of the tow vehicle if the manufacturer has not specified a towing capacity. Depending on which model commodore you have, it may not be legal as a tow vehicle.

http://www.dpi.wa.go...lic_Safetow.pdf

Hire places typically will not allow you to tow a car trailer with a commodore.
http://www.kennards....a...ilers&lvl=1

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 10:02 PM

I'm with Litre8, my trailer weighs in at 440 Kg however most universal car trailers are 600 Kg and up.

Towing is easier with a lighter trailer but they won't take as much abuse. Buy a good one and don't loan it out !!!

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 10:09 PM

My racecar trailer was 300kg plus a 666kg car
So I was pushing the limit of 999kg unbraked
But yes servo trailers are heavy and would actually put you over the limit with a Torana on the back
If your going to get a proper one made... nice and light.. you will be OK with your 2100bar

Don't get caught overloaded...I got stopped with mine once and weighed by transport inspectors
Fine is E-fricking-normous
Luckily mine was just under the limit

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 12:33 AM

Hire places typically will not allow you to tow a car trailer with a commodore.
http://www.kennards....a...ilers&lvl=1


how come when i rang classic hire they said i can hire one of there car trailers and tow it with a commodore???

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 01:01 AM

Cause they don't care about their duty of care
Just getting your cash

If thats right... the Kennard trailer is 800kg... then the most you could put on it would be 1300kg... You might just scrape it in
And thats your towbars maximum load rating..... can you get a bigger bar for it ?

Thats a heavy ass trailer too !!


The capacity of the towing apparatus fitted to the vehicle, or

A relevant maximum trailer mass specified by the vehicle manufacturer.�

Put simply, the most you can tow is the amount specified by the vehicle manufacturer of the capacity of the towbar - WHICH EVER IS LEAST.

If you want to know how much your vehicle can tow, firstly check the owners manual or vehicle sales brochure for the manufacturer�s towing recommendations. Secondly make sure that the towing capacity is as least as much, if not more, than the mass of the trailer, including its load. If you are unsure how strong the towbar is, have a chat to a reputable towing equipment specialist.

In the case where a motor vehicle manufacturer has not specified a maximum towing mass, the limit is stated to be:

1.5 times the unladen or herb mass of the motor vehicle if the trailer is fitted with brakes;

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 01:35 AM

so what your saying is my calais might not be able to tow the torana???

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 02:36 AM

Yes. If the Mermaids get you they will give you a nice big fine and you will have to leave the car on the side of the road for the vultures. You will have to check with holden what the maximum towing capacity of the Calis is.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 04 August 2009 - 02:44 AM.


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Posted 04 August 2009 - 02:53 AM

And when they get you they will make you leave it on the side of the road till something suitable comes along to retrieve it.

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 06:17 AM

The above is exactly why I was limited with my choice of Holden to tow with. A Cross8 has a 2500kg towing capacity so I bought it. My trailer weights about 650kg, and your average V8 HK-WB (usually what I tow) can weigh 1500kg+.

Other problem is single axle braked trailers are only allowed to have a GVM of 2000kg regardless of what's towing them. So you need brakes on both axles with a break-away braking system on them to be allowed to exceed 2000kg, basically electric brakes on all 4 x wheels with an onboard battery and break-away wire.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 12:20 AM

looks like the calais will be able to tow my torana and a my light trailer :) 2100 is the maximum vt commodores can take my owners handbook says it and so does the RAC and the RACQ

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 06:24 AM

Just make sure it's less than 2000kg unless you have 4 wheel electric brakes and a battery on the trailer for breakaway controller and an electric brake controller on your Calais..

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 01:14 PM

Just make sure it's less than 2000kg unless you have 4 wheel electric brakes and a battery on the trailer for breakaway controller and an electric brake controller on your Calais..


thanks for the advice yel once i get my own car trailer which i hope is soon i'll be adding that stuff to my calais and trailer after all i dont wanna end up with no car's i'd rather make sure the calais and the torana are safe

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 04:49 PM

Here's mine. 490 kg and beautiful to tow.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 04:56 PM

That's a nice looking trailer. Two or four braked wheels? and what is the brake setup like?

Edited by Heath, 06 August 2009 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2009 - 08:27 PM

2 wheel hydraulic drum.




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