Some Jap Crap Wagon
#1
Posted 28 May 2011 - 05:43 PM
Anyway, I wanted a wagon that had quirkiness that appealed to me, needed to have a bench seat in the front and an in-line six, obviously needed to be manual, had to be made between 1960 and 1980 and really needed a paintjob that made it look like it had been sitting neglected for a while (more patina would be preferred but that can be arranged). I got pessimistic about finding something Japanese so I started looking at full sized Holdens and they were all overpriced, auto, distasteful with boganized interiors and filled with dodgy repairs and backyard paintjobs aging in really ungraceful ways
Then some time in Feb my mate found something for sale that was a bit out of the ordinary. I'd never even seen one before. $950 later I had some mad car not many people understand hahahaha.
It's a 1973 Datsun H230. In Australia this one was called a 260C but there are a myriad of names for it internationally, for all intents and purposes, it's a Cedric - Nissan's answer to the Crown, but Nissan also have a more upmarket version called the Gloria which is pillarless (not available in a wagon). We never got Glorias in Australia unfortunately, but we got Cedric sedans, pillarless coupes and wagons. Not that you'd know because you never see them. What you do see a bit of is the more recent model, the 330 series 260C.
This one is a 2.6L L-series 6 (L26), cast iron block, alloy head, SOHC, non-crossflow, two barrel carb, points ign. Backed by a 3spd manual on the column with a hydraulic clutch and a Banjo-style live axle with big drums, rear end suspended by leaves with canted shocks, no swaybar. Front end is double wishbone with a swaybar, steering box with linkages, twin piston calipers on solid discs. Fortunately it's a twin circuit braking system too.
Bench seat front, bench seat rear, two person dickie seat in the back that faces the opposite way.
It's got all kinds of important factory features like a hidden map light in the dash, cooling vents in the front footwells like you get on an 40-series Landcruiser, only these ones are more subtle than the steel flaps on a 40. It's got a light that sits on the underside of the bonnet so if you break down at night, the whole engine bay is illuminated well. It has an electric window above the rear left quarter that can be activated by the key barrel in the guard or a switch on the dash. It's got storage space under the rear seat, and it all folds flat with hard rubber on the back of everything (not like a Holden wagon where they trim it with vinyl! Yeah good one dickhead) so it's good for chucking diffs and gearboxes in the back (which will be a common activity in this car). Four windscreen washing jets, intermittent wipers, two piece tailshaft, five stud wheels (5x114.3), mechanically sprung tailgate and bonnet, etc. The spare wheel is stored up under the arse and it has a mechanism for lowering it gracefully, it has a nice original toolkit which has a few things in it including 'Datsun' folding wheel chocks and a speed-wrench with rotating grips so you don't rub your skin as you lower the spare wheel or jack the car up using the scissor jack that is stored under the bonnet which has its own reduction gearbox incorporated into it!
All of those shots were taken the day I bought the car, I've done a fair bit to it since, it's slightly more presentable, updates will come shortly.
#2 _Skapinad_
Posted 28 May 2011 - 05:50 PM
#3 _TorYoda_
Posted 28 May 2011 - 06:26 PM
#4
Posted 28 May 2011 - 06:43 PM
definately wasn't in as good condition as yours
good buy!
#5
Posted 28 May 2011 - 07:11 PM
We might make a dattoboy out of you yet
#6 _nzstato_
Posted 28 May 2011 - 07:11 PM
#7
Posted 28 May 2011 - 07:30 PM
Cooler than a polar Bear's freckle Heath. I like its total originality..... even the trim looks in good order. So with the dicky seat is it classified as an 8 seater? Those old L series motors respond very well to a turbo and will withstand quite a lot of abuse.
The reason why these motors respond well to turbo & handle a lotta abuse is this was the platform & testing ground for the Missan Skline RB26 & later VL Turblo RB30, Same bottom end only refined with later technology...... A friend had a 240Z years ago which was turboed and pushed out 400 ponies, The driveline was standard and never complained 1 little bit......
Good score Heath, Now chop thu top by 4 inches, drop the axles into thu weeds and then you can call it a LOW RIDER, SHAGGIN WAGOON......
#8
Posted 28 May 2011 - 07:49 PM
my mum had a White 280C wagon with cream cloth interior for many years - I worked on that thing for at least 5 or 6 years for her.
I recon it was the next model to that one you have - mum's was a '78 from memory and had much more of a waistline at the back - many of the same features and some different ones - very nicely fitted out inside.
That light under the bonnet, you can turn the end 1/4 turn and it is actually a lead light with a hook on it if you havn't already reallised. I think I actually still have that in my shed - I took it off just before the rest of the car was driven to the wreckers.
Nice smooth engine but geesus the handling on it was like a prawn trawler.
I am pretty sure I have a few photos where it stars in the background somewhere here.
Matt
#9 _T0rana_
Posted 28 May 2011 - 07:52 PM
#10
Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:26 PM
Cool car hope you get the old girl fixed up.
This is the shape my dads was http://en.wikipedia....:130Cedric6.jpg
Edited by Neils LX, 28 May 2011 - 11:29 PM.
#11 _Bomber Watson_
Posted 29 May 2011 - 01:11 AM
I would be honored to ride in it one day.
That said, if you take up Whales suggestion and decide to chop the top, im all keen for it hehe. Obtain a Mig welder, an oxy, and a 5" angle grinder and arrange a suitable time for me to come bludge at your place again and we can make it happen hehehe.
Cheers.
#12
Posted 29 May 2011 - 02:07 AM
Looked alittle like this one but with stock wheels
I've also had a 240C coupe and a 260C sedan and a 300C wagon
#13
Posted 29 May 2011 - 02:22 AM
Probly coulda found this if ya hada asked?Well I was looking for an MS55 Crown wagon for months and couldn't find shit.
Attached Files
Edited by rodomo, 29 May 2011 - 02:22 AM.
#14
Posted 29 May 2011 - 07:53 AM
Any chance you're related to Dattoman?
#15 _LS1 Hatch_
Posted 29 May 2011 - 09:48 AM
That's so ugly, yet cool ?!
You're half right...
#16 _LS1 Hatch_
Posted 29 May 2011 - 09:56 AM
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Or....
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And...are these things really worth this much money?
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#17 _mick74lh_
Posted 29 May 2011 - 10:35 AM
#18
Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:02 AM
Yeah definitely sounds like a 330, which is the more common one. I didn't know about the lead light feature, mad! Thanks for letting me know hahahaI recon it was the next model to that one you have - mum's was a '78 from memory and had much more of a waistline at the back - many of the same features and some different ones - very nicely fitted out inside.
That light under the bonnet, you can turn the end 1/4 turn and it is actually a lead light with a hook on it if you havn't already reallised. I think I actually still have that in my shed - I took it off just before the rest of the car was driven to the wreckers.
Yeah that's a 130 which is the predecessor. They are probably rarer nowadays!This is the shape my dads was http://en.wikipedia....:130Cedric6.jpg
As far as the plans are concerned? Nothing outrageous. I'll just let the updates do most of the talking. Some definite plans will be LPG, moar lows and pissing off the 330 bumper that doesn't fit at all! Correct bumper shown below:
https://cache.gmh-torana.com.au/img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/Hezath/crsm000000000.jpg
All folded down, before I started cleaning shit. Still had heaps of bits of screen protectory stuff from when it was new! Unscrewed all the trims one by one and cleaned them up since
Pulled the sill trim off to fix up the rust
Other side too:
Little bit around the screen:
Had LOTS of fun finding a replacement lense! I managed to find what I guess is the only one parts car wagon in Australia
It was a country car its whole life, had lots of cleaning to do. I thought the Torana was bad underneath but this was horrendous. Anyway it came up mint!
Front end needed some love
Painted in all the arches:
Couldn't buy balljoints or anything, nobody makes them haha. I cleaned all the joints out, put new boots on them and gave them fresh grease. Nothing seemed excessively worn so I'm not too concerned. Put new shocks in and adjusted the springs a bit while I was there. The rotors copped a skim too.
Drums machined and painted:
Edited by Heath, 29 May 2011 - 11:13 AM.
#19
Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:05 AM
Obligatory shot of me looking like a goose
Oh yeah and got given some 14x7 0 offset Japan-made chromed steelies, fitted them with some cheap 195/70s. Fill the guards spot on. Gonna sack it soon, I'm waiting til it's on the road before I do that stuff, but I got my RWC last Friday so it's not far off!
And I spent like 50 hours pulling bits apart, cleaning them and putting them back on. There was so much of that plastic sticker stuff like a screen protector on a phone that had never been removed. And poxy carpet installation etc all sorted. Replaced seals here and there, gave some locks a good clean out and dose of lube etc.
Thought I'd just throw this in for good measure
Now we're up to date.
Edited by Heath, 29 May 2011 - 11:18 AM.
#20
Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:06 AM
#21
Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:35 AM
Edited by slr_v8, 29 May 2011 - 11:35 AM.
#22
Posted 29 May 2011 - 09:29 PM
I might come and have a look?
#23
Posted 31 May 2011 - 05:10 PM
Datto just went over the pits at VicRoads, got rego!
And some black & white custom plates should be here in a few days too.
#24 _Gunmetal LH_
Posted 01 June 2011 - 09:46 PM
Wipe a bit of trans fluid over those tail light lenses...
#25
Posted 01 June 2011 - 10:05 PM
I've already polished them but yeah lots of tiny little cracks in them etc
Edited by Heath, 01 June 2011 - 10:13 PM.
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