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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:12 PM

Thanks for all your replays mate, you answered all the questions i need for the next few months. a few suspension questions but i am not up to that yet.
so on the shopping list air compressor and spray gun and lets lot forget the 2k primer :) work has died down for the next few weeks so hoping i can strip 80% of the car..

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 06:10 PM

small update, spent a few more hours on the engine bay today. its taking longer than i expected.. Hopefully can get my rad support sorted out soon some rust sorted out as well and get some paint down..

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 07:53 AM

Hi Nick

Just got an LH as well for a project. Have had very little to do with cars and mechanical work so it will be a steep learning curve. Have been inspired by the forum and other peoples willingness to help. Do you have an end plan in mind for your LH?

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:24 AM

Hi david,

I am in pretty much the same boat as you mate. Not very michanical minded or car minded.
But I am a trade minded person so things sorta come easy. (exept welding) lol
This forum have alot of skilled people and to be honest all of my idias and inspiration comes from here.
Everyone is willing to give there opinion so don't be shy to ask.
And as for an end date I want it to be done by Xmas but there alot of commitments that slow me down.
Hoping to see some real progress over the weekend and next week.

Good luck with your project mate.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:33 PM

an other small update guys picked up the motor and t400 for the torie yesterday, hopefully i can slowly redo it while doing the body. not sure if its gonna be a stroker or just standard for the time being.
hoping to have the rest of the car back to bare metal over the Easter weekend as well so i should be uploading heaps of pics.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:14 PM

Nice score there, bear in mind your car may need transmission tunnel mods to fit the TH400. Also, did you get the tailshaft with it? The slip yoke (part that goes into the back of the trans) is specific to those transmissions & your original 6cyl one will not fit.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:36 PM

tunnel mods? i didnt know that. i thought everyone puts th400's into toranas.. i might trial fit before i paint the bay then. yea its got the yoke on the end of the box witch is a good thing..
might do some research about the mods that are needed..

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:49 PM

Pretty sure tunnel mods are needed, mainly because of the extra bulk around the rear of the trans. I've always run TH350s as they don't need tunnel mods & are similar in size to a Tri-matic. You will need a trans x-member as well, even the mount is unique to TH400, all easily sourced from CRS or similar conversion specialists. Speedo cable is different too & you'll need a right angle adapter as the cable attaches to the trans on the opposite side to the tri-matic & very close to the trans tunnel. You can modify the original tri-matic T-bar shifter to suit, or try & source a factory HQ-WB TH400 shifter, but i personaly would fit a cable operated shifter like a B&M or Hurst.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:14 PM

ill trial fit the block and box next week to see whats needed. if it needs allot of mods might sell or swap it for a th350. i bought it pretty cheap so prob wont loose..
i was gonna use b&m shifter anyway so that wont matter. but my main priority is body at this stage and fabricating/welding replacement panels it really is the hardest thing i have ever had to do. gotta put my hands up for you blokes, you guys make it look easy that's for sure lol

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:20 PM

Nah mate, it's all practice. Just jump in the deep end, you will know whats going on after a bit of welding. Good luck mate.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:41 PM

Some body repairs are easier than others, i've been in the trade for nearly 20 years & i'm still learning. When i was a third year apprentice, i bought a MIG welder & a $500 rust bucket HQ one tonner project. By the time i'd finished replacing both floor pans, both sills, the entire scuttle panel & countless other rusted panels, i'd learned more about panel fabrication & welding steel panels than i ever did at TAFE. Best advice i can give anyone doing likewise is trial fit everything & even if it looks like it's going to fit first go, tack & trial before fully welding. Nothing worse than finishing off a rust repair only to find you have to start over again because something won't fit or line up properly.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:54 PM

Some body repairs are easier than others, i've been in the trade for nearly 20 years & i'm still learning. When i was a third year apprentice, i bought a MIG welder & a $500 rust bucket HQ one tonner project. By the time i'd finished replacing both floor pans, both sills, the entire scuttle panel & countless other rusted panels, i'd learned more about panel fabrication & welding steel panels than i ever did at TAFE. Best advice i can give anyone doing likewise is trial fit everything & even if it looks like it's going to fit first go, tack & trial before fully welding. Nothing worse than finishing off a rust repair only to find you have to start over again because something won't fit or line up properly.


Yep. That is solid advice. I learned that one the hard way, learned being key.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

Hi Nick

Have just pulled of front nose cone of LH and found bottom part rusted. Also the bottom rad support as seen in picture. I have been on the net looking at other projects and Rare Spares for a replacement. The part of rare spares does not look anything like what is on the car at present. Am I looking at the wrong part is it not the bottom rad support. I know you have done some of yours how did it go.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:39 PM

Sorry photo as above

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:16 PM

yours looks almost like mine when i pulled mine apart, i haven't actually fixed mine yet i did buy a replacement from rares spairs and did not fit my car well, not sure how it fits other members cars. i am byuing an other one from ebay they look alot better and actually have the dip on the top like the original one.
http://www.ebay.com....8#ht_1423wt_905

Nah mate, it's all practice. Just jump in the deep end, you will know whats going on after a bit of welding. Good luck mate.


thanks mate i ended up welding a small patch on the car actually didn't end up coming out that bad, blew a few lil holes but other than that came out ok.
i have attempted to fab up the bonnet hinge section so many times and still not happy with it..

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:18 PM

Some body repairs are easier than others, i've been in the trade for nearly 20 years & i'm still learning. When i was a third year apprentice, i bought a MIG welder & a $500 rust bucket HQ one tonner project. By the time i'd finished replacing both floor pans, both sills, the entire scuttle panel & countless other rusted panels, i'd learned more about panel fabrication & welding steel panels than i ever did at TAFE. Best advice i can give anyone doing likewise is trial fit everything & even if it looks like it's going to fit first go, tack & trial before fully welding. Nothing worse than finishing off a rust repair only to find you have to start over again because something won't fit or line up properly.


thats with anything i suppose practice makes perfect. and belive me i have a few sections i have to repair so by the end of it i am sure i will be a pro..

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:23 PM

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

Man those 1/4's look fresh! They don't look to have any rust damage at all.

Very good man just keep chipping away at it.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

yea man, i was pretty happy with that quarter as well.. only a small section of bog, there is a lil section of rust that has had a bad repair near the window corner, and also a small section on the pilar you can see it if you look closely in the pic near the door its just a small hole so should be easy to fix.. tomorrow i am hoping to get the other side and 2 more doors back as well.. then i have the door jams left.. the fun part lol

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:38 PM

quick question i went to the paint shop today, it was an old bloke that knew what he was talking about.. i asked for a 2k etch primer and he gave me epotec primer surfacer. he sed its the stuff to go onto bare metal and its fine to go over deoxedine and filler.. i told him i wanted etch primer and he told me thats the stuff.. do i have an etch primer or not? i am very confused....

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 10:42 PM

quick question i went to the paint shop today, it was an old bloke that knew what he was talking about.. i asked for a 2k etch primer and he gave me epotec primer surfacer. he sed its the stuff to go onto bare metal and its fine to go over deoxedine and filler.. i told him i wanted etch primer and he told me thats the stuff.. do i have an etch primer or not? i am very confused....

It's not an etch primer but a 2 part epoxy primer. Etch primer is not water proof and needs painting over as soon as possible, the epotec is as near as waterproof as your going to get for a primer, if kept out of the weather I've been told it's good for 12 months or longer. After much research and talking to my local supplier this seems to be the stuff to use for any bare metal thats not going to be painted in a day or two, which is most projetcs on here. Also told it sticks very well to bare metal and you can apply filler over it. It comes in a variety of colours, which colour did you get.
Also retro rods are working on a bonnet hinge repair panel, from speaking to him it sounded like it was going to be the whole end of the inner guard, from top of guard down to where it meets the chassis rail and back to the firewall.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 10:48 PM

so i shouldn't etch prime and just go for that? i bought the grey.. the bloke at the paint shop suggested first bog then paint... not the other way around.
obviously he knows what he is talking about he is an old fella. lol i sprayed a light coat of 1k etch before, i have to sand that now to paint the 2k stuff right?

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 11:00 PM

so i shouldn't etch prime and just go for that? i bought the grey.. the bloke at the paint shop suggested first bog then paint... not the other way around.
obviously he knows what he is talking about he is an old fella. lol i sprayed a light coat of 1k etch before, i have to sand that now to paint the 2k stuff right?

I haven't used it yet, not up to paint yet, but from all my research it goes straight over the bare metal and bog. Only mentioned you can bog over it as you can't most with most primers but apparently ok over 2k epoxy, the advantage being i think is the bog is pourous so if left uncoated could allow moisture to hit the steel. No need for any etch primer and from what I've read on here not many people like the etch primer expecially the 1K stuff. Do a quick search on here for epotec, you'll find some good info.
And I think the grey is the one to use, the paintshop mentioned something about being more protective than the other colours.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:10 AM

Agree with above posts. I use PPG epoxy primer on my cars, i metal finish as best i can & prep the panel before applying it. I apply two medium coats & let it cure for a week & apply any bog needed to finish a repair over the epoxy. I lightly sand the epoxy with P180-240 before applying the high build 2K primers. I'm not a proffesional painter, but i've watched the spray painters at work & question the paint reps that come into the shop, so i'm fairly confident i'm doing it right.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:59 AM

Hey mate I'm following ur thread and although you have a long way to go keep positive and you will get there in the end :) btw what colour r u planning on going?





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