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[76lxhatch]

I'd expect it to be similar to factory, the main switch bank and the individual switches on each door all receive a power feed and an earth, and each motor has two wires from the switches (the individual ones tee into the wiring from the main bank). The motors are not earthed, and the direction is reversed by the mechanical operation of the switches which changes the polarity of the two wires depending on direction. This means two wires to the doors without switches, and three (plus earth) to those with switches. All the wiring needs to be quite heavy gauge to support the current draw, even if you previously had power windows its probably worth replacing the lot to get a good feed as it can make a big difference.

That kit says it comes with instructions but I can probably scan the factory diagram if you want.

[mika03au]

Not too sure 76LX, did Torana ever have an electric window option???
No matter the kit looks like all is there for an easy installation. Wiring diagrams and so on. And yes use heavy duty wiring if you need to add any more than the kit supplies.
Be careful fitting the wires through the door openings, best is to drill and grommet the holes in the door and door jam and feed them through a flexible conduit that way.
I was thinking of fitting the same to my hatch when I get it back from the panel shop ( and also the power door locks ).
http://bluewiremotor...r-window-kit-2d
http://bluewiremotor...ystem-universal
http://bluewiremotor...-1-boot-trigger
If you are keen to start a thread to show any tips and problems that may ( or may not ) come across would be helpful to other forum readers/owners.

Any other guys fitted these systems, would be good to hear feedback of the quality of the kits.

Edited by mika03au, 02 January 2013 - 11:11 AM.

[ls2lxhatch]

Also has anyone used these blue wire motorsport ones and what are your thoughts?
http://bluewiremotor...70689016711

I am not sure but I think this kit just replaces the window winder handle with an electric motor using the existing window mechanism. The loop at the end of the motor comes with adaptors to suit the window winder spline. You remove the handle and the motor will turn the shaft instead. Not the same as a proper electric window setup.

Similar to this one on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com....=item3f18da7209



A few people have replaced the front window regulators with VN-VS electric window regulators and the rears with VY or VP-VT

Torviki Front Windows
http://www.gmh-toran...-power-windows/


Torviki Rear Windows
http://www.gmh-toran...-power-windows/

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 02 January 2013 - 11:31 AM.

[mika03au]

Appreciate you highlighting the installation LS2LX.
Am sure most people doing an electric window installation would be doing it to do away with the window winder. Leaving a box or cover where the spline is defeats that purpose.
The Torviki link is great...thanks.

[76lxhatch]

Not too sure 76LX, did Torana ever have an electric window option???

Don't think so, I was thinking HQ-WB and forgot to mention that...

[mika03au]

I was thinking of using VS switches in the console if I didnt get the Blue Wire Motorsports kits, the relay would be a great idea, the switches probably dont like 10 - 15 amps through them!
PM sent.

[76lxhatch]

Any switch that is designed for full current will be fine with it, but some of the factory ones are a bit fragile physically if not used with care

[antelopeslr5000]

Another good addition to power windows, in my opinion, is to use a Power Window Module from a VN Calais.

It allows time delay on the power windows, so when you've removed your keys from the ignition you still have power to your windows for about a minute (saves having to place keys back into the ignition to power up the windows once you realise you've left them down! )

Also provides auto down for the drivers window which is a handy feature too.

[76lxhatch]

VN switch gear is basically the same wiring as HQ, you just have the addition of the module (which is a little black box like an oversized relay, I think its actually labelled from memory).

VN wiring diagram:

[antelopeslr5000]

Antelope what does the power window module look like, does it just have a time delay relay or 2 in it?

They look like this:



It would have some sort of time delay relay, or similar, for the windows but probably not easily adjustable. I couldn't see why you could not use it to control power to your thermo fan and water pump after the ignition is turned off but as I've said, not easily adjustable, and if you wanted to keep the thermo/pump on for a longer period of time then you would need to adjust it some how.

[76lxhatch]

VNs don't have a BCM (so no)

[Rockoz]

Does the vn window controller also sense full up and full down of the windows and shut them off so they dont keep running if finger is still on the switch? Or is that something done in the electric winders themselves?

[76lxhatch]

I think it does, it controls the auto down of the drivers window on a single press (which stops automatically) so that would make sense