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#1 _judgelj_

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:27 PM

G'day,

Need to put together  a list of bolts i require in stainless to be put together by my engineering shop. Now i've bagged everything but i would have a clue what most of them are and i dont want to make it to tedious for them to work out. So i need the following bolt sizes for a 202 block. If everyone can chip in one or two, would make light work, or just point me in the right direction and ill find them myself. Cheers

Coil (1x large, 1x small):
Fuel pump:
Water pump:
Oil pump:
Lower thermostat housing:
Upper thermostat housing
Starter motor:
Timing cover (not inc sump bolts underneath):
Engine mount brackets (block side):
Engine mount to engine mount bracket on block:
Lower alternator bracket: 

I think that's about it? Just wondering if i can get away with using studs, thick washers and dome buts for my manifolds? I dont want to use the factory clamps as they are not chrome and would rather put something together with stainless parts i can polish.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:53 PM

Bump. Would be helpful



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:22 PM

hi mate...you prob. already know about it, but staino bolts and nuts get that bloody 'galling' thing happening where they bind up on them selves and  you just cant undo them, and normally have to cut them off with a grinder. 

Maybe something to ponder...but they do look good.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:48 PM

Yeah wasnt too sure whether or not that was likely to happen. Maybe lubrication would help? Would heat be the cause?



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 02:15 AM

Hi Jacob,

Stainless Steel is too soft for the Manifold*, the bolts everywhere are Imperial and are usually UNC for the coarse threaded ones and UNF for the fine threaded ones. Dave I

 

p.s. these are the sizes used, 3/16, 5/16 and 3/8 inch sizes

 

p.p.s. fine threaded bolts*, studs* and nuts* are fine so the torque is higher so that part can be done up tighter, so S/S is no good for them

 

p.p.p.s. you could get nut covers for the Manifold ones

 

Bump. Would be helpful


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:15 AM

Didnt know nut covers existed. Is even 316 stainless too soft a material? Ill go steel for the manifold even if i opt for studs in which case ill use some dome nuts and thick washers. Im guessing the timing cover bolts are 3/16?



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

re: the galling...I think Neversieze or similar helps, but the buggers do it hot or cold.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 06:32 PM

Yeah might use loctite any sieze but to be honest I'll probably end up going for some black bolts just as it's a better contrast IMHO. I'll still need to know sizes though. Will the water pump be 5/16? Lower thermo housing?

What bolts need spring washers?

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 07:23 PM

Gimme a couple of days and i will get you a full list.

 

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:03 PM

Good Man DJ,
I was looking around for a detailed list and just found this Kit if anyone needs the standard replacement bolts and nuts:-

http://kustombitz.mo...lts-blackz.html

May be a bit expensive at $120. Dave I

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:57 PM

DJ ill probably be in the bolt shop tomorrow so dont stress to much. Ill take in what i have and make them match everything, i know they like that. Alternatively i could probably use my dies to work the threads out? 



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:25 PM

WHen i got all mine i just took all the bolts in hehe. I did make it easy and have one of a type with a number attatched to it...

 

Ie, timing case bolts, took one in, bit of masking tape around the shank with the required number written on it....

 

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:29 PM

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:46 PM

Mate that was perfect I saved Wots post will be very helpful tomorrow. There are two threads where the coil bracket goes, one is smaller, what is it for?

Dj that's a good idea beats putting then all in a bag and taking 30 bolts with u I'll try that cheers

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:53 PM

The small hole is a locator for the bracket..............not a thread.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

Mate that was perfect I saved Wots post will be very helpful tomorrow. There are two threads where the coil bracket goes, one is smaller, what is it for?

Dj that's a good idea beats putting then all in a bag and taking 30 bolts with u I'll try that cheers

Hi Jacob

 

One one hole has a thread, the smaller hole is to locate a small tab on the coil bracket.

 

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:17 PM

Could have sworn both were threaded, i may need glasses. Cheers

Do i need to use spring washers anywhere in particular? On the engine? Any good places to use hex head bolts?



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 07:34 AM

I use spring washers pretty well everywhere minus the manifold studs.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:44 AM

Yeah that narrows it down for me. Do you bother with flat washers behind the springs?

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:46 AM

Yeah, mostly for looks, but it does reduce the effectiveness of the spring washer slightly.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 09:00 AM

Yeah I don't want to scratch anything so use them where needed.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 09:22 AM

I also think it looks nicer.

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First pick i found showing bolts.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 01:49 PM

Ohh so you use hex heads... Good idea

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 01:58 PM

Cap heads, and yeah i put them almost everywhere through the car, i like them.

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Posted 06 November 2021 - 09:58 PM

hi mate...you prob. already know about it, but staino bolts and nuts get that bloody 'galling' thing happening where they bind up on them selves and  you just cant undo them, and normally have to cut them off with a grinder. 

Maybe something to ponder...but they do look good.


Now thats a problem...I wanted to use stainless bolts for the rocker cover...are they likely to gall and bind in that application?  I'm a bit wary of using anti-seize as this may allow the bolts to loosen, resulting in oil leaks.


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