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#1 lc2dr

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:28 AM

Hi All,

 

I'm planning to put in a GTR style interior and have purchased a set of the stainless retainers for the top of the door trim panels - just need to source some suitable screws and make the holes...

 

Would somebody be able to post photos of the original holes in the door + of the screw used to attach the trim?

 

I assume there has to be a fairly large indentation to allow for the counter sunk portion of the trim.

 

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Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers,

Jeff



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:12 PM

Hi Jeff

Here are a few photos of the trim retainers installed (didn't have a photo of the bare door but they are countersunk to a match fit of the retainer so they seat into place ,

i used counter sunk self tappers (don't know what gauge) but as long as the head fits snuggly in the retainer & not sitting too much above it ,it will be sweet .they must not be any longer than 4mm for the front screw on the rear retainers as there is a panel behind the hole.

as you are drilling the holes ,you can choose the gauge .

as you can see in the photos ,you can line the rear ones up with the seat belt anchor point on the rear quarter & mark your holes that way but…..

have you got trim tops ???

i would suggest that you have you door trim and clip it into place with the retainer sitting on top ,then mark the panel where the retainer sits ,because if you drill them first then fit the trim later .the trim top may not quite reach the retainer to sit into it ,or it may be too close that the trim sits off the panel .

I just installed them & it was difficult enough with the holes already there as the trim tops (curved section that makes up the top shape of the trim)were fibreglass.

If you are lucky enough to have a set of original metal trim tops ,your laughing...

If not ,i used aftermarket front ones from aussie muscle car parts in Moorebank NSW for $120.00 each & Attached File  IMG_2596.JPG   190.27K   19 downloadsAttached File  IMG_2483.JPG   537.54K   18 downloadsAttached File  IMG_2482.JPG   241.16K   23 downloadsfibreglass rear ones (that fit really well .

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 09:37 PM

Currently fitting these also, can you please post a photo of the trim panel.

How does the trim panel attach to the door?



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 08:05 PM

Can you get these trim retainers aftermarket?? I've got the Tin tops with the holes from factory but no retainers??

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:26 PM

Hi Jeff

Here are a few photos of the trim retainers installed (didn't have a photo of the bare door but they are countersunk to a match fit of the retainer so they seat into place ,

i used counter sunk self tappers (don't know what gauge) but as long as the head fits snuggly in the retainer & not sitting too much above it ,it will be sweet .they must not be any longer than 4mm for the front screw on the rear retainers as there is a panel behind the hole.

as you are drilling the holes ,you can choose the gauge .

as you can see in the photos ,you can line the rear ones up with the seat belt anchor point on the rear quarter & mark your holes that way but…..

have you got trim tops ???

i would suggest that you have you door trim and clip it into place with the retainer sitting on top ,then mark the panel where the retainer sits ,because if you drill them first then fit the trim later .the trim top may not quite reach the retainer to sit into it ,or it may be too close that the trim sits off the panel .

I just installed them & it was difficult enough with the holes already there as the trim tops (curved section that makes up the top shape of the trim)were fibreglass.

If you are lucky enough to have a set of original metal trim tops ,your laughing...

If not ,i used aftermarket front ones from aussie muscle car parts in Moorebank NSW for $120.00 each & fibreglass rear ones (that fit really well .

hope this helps

 

Hi Cliff,

 

Thanks heaps for the photos - they definitely help....

 

Yes, I have a set of the metal trim tops...  I purchased a complete set of original, but stuffed, GTR trim cards which have the 4 metal tops still attached.  I think I'll take your advise and use the stuffed cards as a guide and mount the stainless trim as per them - I just hope that when I get new door cards they don't vary in size too much.

 

I've managed to find the below image which gives an idea of what the holes look like - just got to figure out what to use to make the indentation and then drill the hole @ the bottom.

 

LC_GTR_door_trim_mount_holes.jpg

 

Cheers,
Jeff

 

 

Currently fitting these also, can you please post a photo of the trim panel.

How does the trim panel attach to the door?

 

I'll take a photo and post it tomorrow for you...

 

Can you get these trim retainers aftermarket?? I've got the Tin tops with the holes from factory but no retainers??

 

No, I haven't seen them available anywhere.



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Posted 26 April 2014 - 08:52 PM

I've made a start on mounting the GTR door trim retainers and found the trims have more holes than swiss cheese...  Can someone please advise which of these holes are in the correct place?

 

The right hand side has a hole that almost lines up with the one in the stainless trim...

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Whilst the left hand side is further down, in line with a hole at the hinge end of the panel...

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Also, are these holes supposed to be there?  There is no matching hole @ the other end...

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Does anybody have a picture of the front door trim installed on a door, showing screw holes and the type of retainer used?  I assume they should be something like these trim screws....

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Thanks heaps,

Jeff



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Posted 26 April 2014 - 09:31 PM

Jeff, AFAIK there should not be any screw holes through the GTR vinyl trim. My guess is someone has added those screws to hold the top part of the trim to the door as the metal trim tops were coming loose from the door card.

 

Just noticed the screws through the ends of the silver inlays. They should not be there either.


Edited by S pack, 26 April 2014 - 09:33 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 10:16 AM

Jeff, AFAIK there should not be any screw holes through the GTR vinyl trim. My guess is someone has added those screws to hold the top part of the trim to the door as the metal trim tops were coming loose from the door card.

 

Just noticed the screws through the ends of the silver inlays. They should not be there either.

Hi Jeff 

s pack is on the money 

there should be no external screws on the cards ,here is a bit of info from the manual ,hope it helps Attached File  IMG_3483.jpg   234.6K   9 downloadsAttached File  IMG_3484.jpg   138.96K   9 downloads

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:48 PM

As  mentioned  in  the  previous  posts  ,  the  holes  in  the  silver  inlay  and  the  hole  next  to  the  door  lock  ferrule  are  not  factory  screw  holes .

How  ever  the  2  holes  either  end  of  the  metal  top  that  run  parallel  with  the  stainless  strip  are  original  holes  and  thus  are  used.

The  factory  LC  shop  manual  does  not  show  this.

Regarding  the  correct  screw  and  washer.

They  used  a  unique  dished  special  washer  with  the  outside  diameter  neing  not  much  bigger  that  the  head  of  the  screw.

I  am  not  sure  how  to  put  up  pics  but  can  send  some  who  can  hopefully  put  them  on  the  forum  for  all  to  see .

 

Regards  LC870



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:46 PM

Hi jeff

I took off my door trim today as I had to fix the outer weather strip ,so heres a few photos of mine

Its entirely up to you if you want to use the extra screws in the trim at the top but i think they are not necessary and make the trim look like ,,,oh it doesn't fit properly so I'll just stick a screw here & one there .(even if it is original)

the retainer will hold it in at the top(the snib will aid this as well) and there is trim clips just under the metal trim top that hold it nice and tight 

A much cleaner look in my eyes but thats just me 

cheers and good luck with it

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:50 PM

MY GTR

 

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You can see the 2 SS screws with cupped washers at front/back near the top, these are original with factory holes in the door


should add these 2 holes are also in the metal trim that fits on top of the door card



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:16 PM

i just had a look in the book Torana tough with 2 original examples 

1,,,just like Limos has the screws

1,,,, just like my one without ,both 100% original cars 

They actually don't look too bad as when the door is closed you don't see the screws ,

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:17 PM

Hey Guys,

 

Thanks heaps for all the posts and really good information.... it's very helpful.

 

From photos I've seen elsewhere of LC GTRs there has been a mix of with & without the two trim panel screws but my reading of this section of the manual posted by Cliff indicates the screws should be present - they're just not in the images.

 

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Cliff, I agree with you - they do indeed look like an after thought.  I guess I'll see how the trim panel sits once I get a new set and add them if need be.

 

Thanks again guys.

Jeff

 



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:21 PM

As  mentioned  in  the  previous  posts  ,  the  holes  in  the  silver  inlay  and  the  hole  next  to  the  door  lock  ferrule  are  not  factory  screw  holes .

How  ever  the  2  holes  either  end  of  the  metal  top  that  run  parallel  with  the  stainless  strip  are  original  holes  and  thus  are  used.

The  factory  LC  shop  manual  does  not  show  this.

Regarding  the  correct  screw  and  washer.

They  used  a  unique  dished  special  washer  with  the  outside  diameter  neing  not  much  bigger  that  the  head  of  the  screw.

I  am  not  sure  how  to  put  up  pics  but  can  send  some  who  can  hopefully  put  them  on  the  forum  for  all  to  see .

 

Regards  LC870

 

Happy to post them for you... I'll PM my email address.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:38 PM

Posting this for LC870...

 

 

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:52 PM

Posting this for LC870...

Thank  you  lc2dr.

 

Regards  LC870



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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:10 PM

Ok people, I need a full set on these stainless trim retainers front and back and I'm willing to pay a fair price for a good usable set!

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 08:51 PM

Bump people....I'm after the fronts now as I've found a rear set! But will look at buying a full set if that's how you want to sell!

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 10:22 AM

Hey fellas would you know what gauge these trim top screws are please?


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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:31 PM

Has anybody got any rear retainer strips for sale ?



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:08 AM

I have the metal plates that go on the door cards, but I only have the 2 backs and 1 front.

 

To the original poster of this thread I have a complete set of original screws along with original screw and washers that I will sell, you get first option

 

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 06:59 PM

I Need a driver side rear chrome strip but will buy a pair if someone has a pair of good condition rears they are contemplating selling if they dont want to seperate.



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Posted 13 March 2019 - 05:58 PM

I have DS rear on eBay at the moment

Simon

https://www.ebay.com...984.m1555.l2649




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