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#1 _hutch_

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 05:02 PM

As the title suggests I have a slight problem with my LJ 8/72
I'm in the process of cleaning/tidying up the wiring lume which is the one out of the donor car to suit the gtr dash cluster,when I get to the headlight connectors which have been butchered and park light globe holders taped on I go in to check on the car omnly to find out that it has orange indicators which I think are also the parkers,there is no cut outs in the head light buckets they are original to this car,well they where when I got it.
Question ...is it legal to have orange parkers on the front of my car or should they be clear,would hate to have to change it all later.
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Posted 26 April 2014 - 05:46 PM

I thought you could only have orange indicators if you had parking lights through the headlight, you can't have orange parkers

so if you are keeping the orange parkers you will need to change headlights



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Posted 26 April 2014 - 07:09 PM

Now, this is good Phillip and Limo,

never thought about this before, so when we buy a headlight, it has to have the parkers in it to. Dave I

 

the LC/J Torana's I have had, had white blinker lenses. hmm



and have Orange blinker lenses



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Posted 26 April 2014 - 09:03 PM

I always thought LC had white and LJ had orange.

Perhaps a mid LJ ADR change?



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Posted 26 April 2014 - 09:04 PM

Clear indicator lenses with double filament bulbs for indicator and park lights is correct for LJ up to early December 1972.

Amber lenses with single filament bulb for indicators and park lamps in headlights from early December 1972 onwards.

You can use the amber lenses as long as you change or modify the other components to suit.



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Posted 26 April 2014 - 09:17 PM

hmmmmm anyone lookin for a nice pair of really good amber lenses,pretty sure the globes are double filament,will have to pull them out coz I didn't pull the cables through the holes into engine bay anyway lol (insert idiot here)
Oh and thanks for the
info too

Edited by hutch, 26 April 2014 - 09:19 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2014 - 09:26 PM

I always thought LC had white and LJ had orange.

Perhaps a mid LJ ADR change?

Yes it was an ADR change effective for vehicles produced on and from 1st January 1973. However GM's poilcy was to introduce such changes into production prior to the ADR's effective date.

 

The one thing GM didn't seem to do was stamp the new ADR number onto the compliance plate of the pre ADR compliant build vehicles.



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Posted 26 April 2014 - 09:58 PM

will have to look through the collection of miscalanious crap now to see if I have the white lenses,i'm thinking I might have grabbed the amber ones to match the wiring,was 4 years ago,to many bottles of scotch and bourbob have been cosumed since then

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 10:00 PM

I have nice clear ones if you want to swap.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:10 AM

If you want to do the conversation to amber lenses, you could get the ends of the wiring harness from a kingswood, later model Torana or possibly early Commodore. There should be a connector about 100mm behind the headlight where you can simply unplug the old wires and plug in the new one. You'll just have to make sure that you have headlight globes suitable to have the parkers in them.

When I got my car (mid 73 lj) someone had put H4 globes in, moved the parkers into the indicator, cut the original parkers socket of the rest of the headlight sockets and then butchered the headlight buckets to accommodate the H4 globe socket.

From memory I think I got the headlight wires from a kingswood and removed the socket from them and swapped that socket with the ones plugged into my headlights, I also put standard globes back in that could accommodate the parkers. Now it is all as it should be for a late lj.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:48 AM

Thing is these cars are 40 years old so who knows what's been done to them over the years

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:06 AM

Ok had a look at one of the early posts on the car before I attacked it,guess what orange lenses,not real keen on hacking up the headlight buckets and pretty sure they where to ones in it,so I'm keen for a swap sibs

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:31 AM

Phillip, if your front indicator housings have two wires they are for clear lens and double filament bulb. Single wire for amber lens and single filament bulb.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 01:11 PM

Yup whipped out the globes and had look,has double filament globes in them

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:57 PM

after market tip with these front lights

solder a wire inside the light to the earth strip and attach it to the self tapping screw that holds base to vehicle

the original earth through the bolt seems to give problems



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Posted 28 June 2014 - 12:59 PM

Phillip, if your front indicator housings have two wires they are for clear lens and double filament bulb. Single wire for amber lens and single filament bulb.

 

Shizen, just realised there is a difference in the housing with the number of wires.  I have 2 wire housings, anyone want to swap for single wire ones?  I'll put a pic up soon.

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 01:06 PM

ugy4ebes.jpg so I presume the plug will be different. Single?

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 02:02 PM

Yeah single plug not double.

 

What you can do Marty is simply cut off the purple wire (park light wire) flush with the rubber boot and use a double filament bulb. Obviously there will only be power sent to one filament but that is all you need for the indicators.



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Posted 19 May 2019 - 08:03 PM

Might aswell ask this here...are lc-lx headlight assemblies compatible..(bucket & chrome bezel)is the headlight bucket hole size all that is different between the buckets.

Is this right small hole for parker on indicator big hole for parker in lights..

Cheers maz

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 19 May 2019 - 08:05 PM.





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