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#1 SA EH

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 10:58 AM

Hey guys, I know this has been brushed over once or twice but i couldn't find any pics or details, so i started digging... 

 

Even before i started any head work on my project, I made a phonecall in response to an add in an outdated magazine to a bloke who was casting up alloy 9 ports. At the time there were only a couple of alloy methanol heads (no water jackets) and cast iron versions available along with the uncertainty of any future castings. 

 

Anyway, thought i'd give Ian Moodie another call.

Turns out another batch were made and some are still available.

Yes they are costly, no they're not a Jzed, but if you're considering a yella terra, check it out. 

 

The design features over the standard 9 port make it perfect for high horsepower applications.

Quoting Ian here... "spring pads are thicker to allow for taller spring heights and roller cams , ( 1.700 can be achieved no problem) , manifold faces are wider on inlet and exhaust faces and the lump in number 5 exhaust port removed , Tappet cover area is 4mm higher to allow for rocker clearance . Now for the HORSE POWER bits , A closed chamber has been used to get the best squish and make the chamber active , it has been modified to allow larger valves to BREATH , the guides are offset to the centre of the chamber for bore clearance and air flow , 1mm on the exhaust 1.5 mm on the intake valve . The ports are cast larger than factory size ( no need for extra porting ) . The short side of the throat area is thicker and throats are larger than standard . The ports flow more air in the high valve lifts than a factory head allowing for use of roller cams or larger rocker ratios to be used . XU1 part numbers and cast dates are used".

 

One great advantage is the ability to fit larger valves without having to carry out bore notching or offsetting the cylinder head on the block. You can probably carry out additional porting to suit your needs and if you break through to a water jacket (which you won't because the throats are thicker), just grab your alloy welder & fix it up. Anything thats already on your 9 port can bolt straight up, and its heaps lighter! Word is that there's some folks going as far as 1.9" on the intake valve!

They are a great head for NA horsepower with some group nc racers using them to their fullest.

If i knew how much i was going to invest in my head at the time, this option starts looking cheap!

If you have any queries, the man is happy to chat. (Ian Moodie 0448 003 548) - think he's in QLD.

No, i didn't get paid for this... here's a few pics :)

 

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:03 AM

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:10 AM

Very Nice Jonesy,

Now we need to heavily port her,

 although she does look bigger in the port from here.



I like the cut out, so we can see the insides


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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:18 AM

Why, oh why, oh why did he use XU-1 part numbers?

 

Looks the goods apart from that though. 

 

Did he quote any flow figures or just "trust me mate there awesome" like most do?

 

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:24 AM

XU1 part numbers?
For people to make their XU1's original?!?!

Yeah, nah, sorry no flow figures bomber.

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:45 AM

I can just forsee issues and law suits with the XU1 numbers tbh. 



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Posted 01 June 2014 - 02:34 PM

I have flow figures...

1.74 intake valve
1.48 exhaust valve
Tested at 28"

Intake @ .500 - 185.98cfm
@ .550 - 193.50cfm
@ .600 - 198.88cfm

Exhaust @ .500 - 151.98cfm
@ .550 - 156.06cfm
@ .600 - 159.12cfm

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 02:36 PM

Wow thats a lot less than i expected. 

 

Cheers. 



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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:14 PM

do some research on ian moodie,then you will realise he is not just somebody who decided to cast up some heads

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:24 PM

XU1 part numbers?
For people to make their XU1's original?!?!
Yeah, nah, sorry no flow figures bomber.


For people to make their XU1's "LOOK" original...

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:35 PM

Not sure how to read the flow figures, but im guessing they'd be better than a std Red head, and im sure you could fool some people say you have an alloy 9port head.

Id love to have one just to say i have one :)

since im trying to learn alot more about heads and making them flow and what not to do, i kinda adjusted the cut away pic, (hope you dont Mind Jonsey)

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Would this be actually any good having a longer radius and high port and flat along the bottom?



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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:38 PM

I have flow figures...

1.74 intake valve
1.48 exhaust valve
Tested at 28"

Intake @ .500 - 185.98cfm
@ .550 - 193.50cfm
@ .600 - 198.88cfm

Exhaust @ .500 - 151.98cfm
@ .550 - 156.06cfm
@ .600 - 159.12cfm

 

 

Wow thats a lot less than i expected. 

 

Cheers. 

 

Those figures would be as-delivered, not ported to their full potential, so I think the numbers are actually pretty bloody good. I'm also impressed that the flow is still increasing significantly at 0.6" lift. I could never understand why the factory valve spacing was so wide so I'm glad to see Ian addressed this. Definitely a head worth considering.



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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:40 PM

I thought the same when they first came out but to me if anyone thinks they look original then I might put my "Willow XU1 converted to an S" up for sale ! :-)

On the port side it looks like a red head!

On the spark plug side it looks like a blue head !

Hmmm wonder what I could get for Willow?

Calling Ritcho! Hahahaha

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:46 PM

Would this be actually any good having a longer radius and high port and flat along the bottom?

 

No, making the floor like that would cut the flow back to something like 100cfm. The short side radius is the most critical area.



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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:53 PM

Your right, as usual, for an as delivered head thats exceptional. 

 

Just the OP says no need for extra porting....And for the majority of applications thats probably true. 

 

Looking at the cut away there appears to be plenty there to fettle with though, so i'd tend to think that for outright HP this would be the next best thing to a JZED

 

Not that i'd have a clue what to fettle.....



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Posted 01 June 2014 - 05:21 PM

For an as delivered head, it flows just as much as mine does after spending thousands on valves & port work... so yeah, id have one, also to say I've got an alloy 9 port.

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 06:19 PM

do some research on ian moodie,then you will realise he is not just somebody who decided to cast up some heads


This^^^
He is a great guy with many years of experience behind him and more than willing to share that knowledge with you. He has certainly changed my perspective on the holden 6 in a couple of phonecalls.

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 03:20 PM

Where those numbers out of the box or did they have a tickle or two?



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 09:43 PM

I've got nothing here to say that it's not what you get when you pay the money...

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 09:08 AM

I'm curious as to what kind of dollars they want?

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 02:45 PM

$3600 bare head !!



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Posted 03 June 2014 - 05:46 PM

That chamber looks REAL thin on the back wall, do you know if this was this a test piece?

 Rod.



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Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:14 PM

Yeah I can see that Rod.
I'd say it was a test unit cut away to check shape & thickness, but that's a guess...

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 01:43 PM

Did anyone go a bit further and purcase one of these or have further info?

 

It seems Rod was looking into developing something aswell but has gone quiet??


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Posted 27 May 2016 - 10:16 AM

Hi. I've got 6 weeks to wait for mine..  The pics show the first casting that was cut up to see thicknesses....they have thickened the mould up since. The inlet valve has a 60 thou offset and the ex valve is 40 thou offset.. thicker rocker cover rails for rocker clearance. ports are bigger than std and a different shape.  spring seats are 650 thou thick. you have to install the guides and valve seats.Im looking forward to play with my new toy.  Phil






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