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#1 _Ruby_

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 07:06 PM

Can anyone tell me why some A9X cars have Satin Blackout and others have Gloss finish?

I assume there was no standard finish?

 



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Posted 27 December 2014 - 09:30 PM

I believe it was with Matt black or satin black from the factory, it's one of those. But I am sure one of the guys on here that know a lot more about them will be able to answer it for you correctly

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 09:54 PM

I believe the reasoning behind the black bonnet (as with Ambulances of yesteryear) is to reduce glare from the sun reflecting off the bonnet, so it kind'a defeats the purpose if you use gloss black paint...

 

Not that it stops most people from using gloss anyway, I know I have before (and would again) but I'm more interested in appearance than driving off into the sunset.



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Posted 27 December 2014 - 11:26 PM

The satin is alot harder to keep clean so most use gloss 

 

Satin is correct though



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 08:45 AM

Yeah the satin black went well on the old ambulances.

Until the guys polished the life out of it and made it nice and shiny. LOL



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 12:54 PM

Cool I was right.... Sorta. I went with gloss nice and shiny

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 04:01 PM

Thanks guys, still not convinced but? I have an A9X with Gloss Bonnett, Flamenco Red and have seen other original Flamenco cars untouched with Gloss?

Also sighted two other original cars with Satin? Maybe it was owners choice at time of purchase? Wayne Quine would know.

 



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:40 PM

They were all Satin.  But once polished enough became gloss like.



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:35 AM

Thanks guys, still not convinced but? I have an A9X with Gloss Bonnett, Flamenco Red and have seen other original Flamenco cars untouched with Gloss?

Also sighted two other original cars with Satin? Maybe it was owners choice at time of purchase? Wayne Quine would know.

All satin when left factory one owner i know had it painted gloss before he took delivery only Tuxedo black cars left factory as gloss. Even the grease out of a moth would stain the satin and never able to polish for obvious reasons. Trailer queens {enclosed} exempted i would go gloss and buy a pair of good sunglasses.



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Posted 12 November 2020 - 05:13 AM

I believe it was with Matt black or satin black from the factory

 

Curious to know; were blackouts added at the factory or at Bill Patterson's?

 

"During the mid 70s Bill Patterson Holden won a contract with Holden to modify the Torana A9X race cars which were trucked to the Dealership in Ringwood, where wheel arch flares were added and other minor modifications made, before being sent back to Holden in Dandenong for distribution to the Holden race teams."
 
 
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Posted 12 November 2020 - 06:32 AM

Probably the same as many other Holden and Torana with blacked out areas, done in the finishing area. Not sure about the bonnet area though, I’d imagine it would be done in the Dandenong Assembly and/or Body plant. Do you know if it was heat cured Acrylic like the colour or it it air dried?

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Posted 12 November 2020 - 10:39 AM

Curious to know; were blackouts added at the factory or at Bill Patterson's?

 

"During the mid 70s Bill Patterson Holden won a contract with Holden to modify the Torana A9X race cars which were trucked to the Dealership in Ringwood, where wheel arch flares were added and other minor modifications made, before being sent back to Holden in Dandenong for distribution to the Holden race teams.

Are you sure about the race team cars? I know they did the built for dealer ones.

But there seems to be a fair difference in the flare cut outs on the race cars.

Thats just by going what I have seen on here.

Thought the teams may have got a roller and did the other fitments themselves.

May be totally wrong though.

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 12 November 2020 - 11:13 AM

Are you sure about the race team cars?

 

You can never really guarantee 100% authenticity in any article and that one is from Car Sales, lol, however I'm pretty sure, according to this ad:

 

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Posted 12 November 2020 - 11:15 AM

there seems to be a fair difference in the flare cut outs on the race cars.
 

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That would be due to the vast difference in race wheels vs. road wheels.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 12 November 2020 - 11:15 AM.


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Posted 12 November 2020 - 02:36 PM

Are you sure about the race team cars? I know they did the built for dealer ones.

But there seems to be a fair difference in the flare cut outs on the race cars.

There shouldn't be. The guards were homologated.

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I have a picture of a brand new GMP&A shell and it has the flares fitted.

 

As for the satin bonnet blackouts, I reckon they were done before the cars went to Pattersons, the same as the unique paint scheme on the L34's. Don't forget that the LX SL/R 5000's got the same paint job as the A9X's.



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Posted 12 November 2020 - 04:22 PM

s for the satin bonnet blackouts, I reckon they were done before the cars went to Pattersons, the same as the unique paint scheme on the L34's. Don't forget that the LX SL/R 5000's got the same paint job as the A9X's.

 

What about the hatchbacks?

 

Some controversy on facebook about a coupe with a bonnet blackout that someone claims is a rare factory style, lol

 

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Posted 13 November 2020 - 10:41 AM

You wouldn't believe just how many "unrestored" cars have 1990's two pack paint on them.



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Posted 13 November 2020 - 04:32 PM

You wouldn't believe just how many "unrestored" cars have 1990's two pack paint on them.


Even worse are the salesperson's, "oh very fastidious OCD type concours restoration". & 20 thing's wrong with the car's. Why not just say, very tidy rebuild. A restoration is, as per how it left the factory. At least guy's doing lh lx, usually don't have to flow coat everything in sight, like other painters on other gmh's !

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Posted 13 November 2020 - 05:44 PM

What about the hatchbacks?

Some controversy on facebook about a coupe with a bonnet blackout that someone claims is a rare factory style, lol

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First mistake. Taking notice of anything on Foolbook. Either stay away or believe the opposite of anything stated as fact.

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Posted 13 November 2020 - 05:50 PM

Remember they were masked up by hand by different workers. Probably explains so many differences in factory blackouts. Inside doors, under bonnet etc.



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Posted 13 November 2020 - 06:17 PM

At least all local LX were built in the one body plant and one assembly plant (except for the Woodville/Elizabeth pilots). Try figuring out Holdens, with 4 local body plants and 5-6 or more different assembly plants .

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Posted 13 November 2020 - 06:42 PM

First mistake. Taking notice of anything on Foolbook. Either stay away or believe the opposite of anything stated as fact.


I was actually trying to educate both them and myself, I explained to them how no A9X left the factory with flares for starters.

 

So many there know very little and it's a Torana group, lol.

 

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