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#26 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:22 PM

No reason you cant put the current engine and box to the side to put in later when your off your P's, and put a six and a box in the car for now. 

 

Drop tank has nothing to do with the engine, if it cant be engineered then possibly consider beridding of it. No idea what type it is, but should get a few hungy, stock tank could be had for $50 or so. 

 

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:31 PM

because i need the money haha. how much do u think one would sell for?, and how much could i pick up a good 202 for? sorry but im young and still learning haha



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:33 PM

ohk, bomber, what v6 do u recomend, which will be reasonable on fuel ecomony but go well and hopefully sound good?? thanks



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:36 PM

Not a v6... Straight 6,just go a 202 with a decent cam and a slightly larger carby if on a budget

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:42 PM

how much would my motor go for and just a estimate of a 202 that your talking about? and also i had a look at a few but most have been rebuilt, and that sadly is prohibited for p' plates ::(



what do you think about this one? http://www.gumtree.c...gine/1067480869



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:57 PM

No v6, that would be classed as an engine conversion and get you back to square one. 

 

A rebuild is not classified as a modification. 

 

Those prices are very steep in the gumtree add, should get something for half those figures. 

 

Keep in mind you will need a gearbox to suit the six cylinder as well. 



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:59 PM

You can pick a decent 202 up pretty cheap still and dont worry about if its rebuilt and modified most of the time as long as it looks standard and isnt too loud you will be fine. Mine was fairly loud and had minimal mods but o was lucky. All i did was extractors and a 34 adm weber carb.

As for the current setup id say at least $1000 and go up from there, i paid $1200 for a 253 and auto which turned out to need a full rebuild.

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:04 PM

yeah ok, thanks so much guys, yous have been life savers!! ill look more into 202's tomorow and see how much $$ i got saved up to spend, just one last question.... if i was to sell the blue 308 running with 4 speed gearbox, how much do you think i would get??? just estimate, thanks alot :)



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:21 PM

All together (incl. flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, gearbox, shifter etc.), if the engine is okay and assuming it's only a "VT" prefix, and the box is an M21, I'd say maybe two grand if you're lucky? If the engine needs a rebuild or it needs a new clutch or there's any metal in the box then obviously less.

 

Your problem is that you can buy a complete LS1 with trans for not much more than that if you look around.



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:24 PM

oh wow, thats still very nice, i could than buy a nice 202 engine and cluth with that money? :) well im off to bed guys, thanks again for all the help and great advice yous gave me! :) laters



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 11:16 PM

Put a wanted ad in the Classified section here.

 

You should get a decent 202 and M20 for around $600 plus freight. They will be far cheaper away from the big cities. Up here you get a good 'hear running' 202 for 250 - 300 bucks. Ive seen good running motor and boxes going for 350 - 400, Freight is the tricky part and would cost a few hundred but they aren't that easy to sell so you might find someone willing to put it on a pallet for you. There's a thread on this site where you can ask members nearby to go and have a look at parts for you

 

 I'd go for a red motor to keep it simple. You can put a decent head on it, mild cam, electronic dizzy and maybe a 2 barrel Stromberg carby and XU1 dual headers and it will still look standard and go alright.

 

If you're willing to go with a 173 it will be even cheaper again.



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 04:39 AM

Eww... sorry Jordan, I think I may have told you WAY too much money for your V8 motor? Sorry... I should've done some homework first!

 

I've just been having a quick look around ebay and I don't think you'll get anywhere near what I said before.

 

There are a few LS1 engines for well under two grand (and one under one thousand)...

 

http://www.ebay.com....s-/33615/i.html

 

And there's another blue 308 listed for $250 ("recently reconditioned" but looks like it's in pieces).

 

So I have to revise my estimate down considerably, apologies again.


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Posted 22 January 2015 - 09:10 AM

ohk yeah thats a great idea, thanks lazarus, i can afoord 600 :), yeah red motor i would go with all those parts you said cause im willing to pay 800. Bigfella,... thats sad news :( but i cant understand how a red 202 can be more expensive than a blue 5 liter 308 running with gear box and the whole lot..? :( but its all good haha no need to apologise :)



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 09:31 AM

Slow down, relax. These challenges will be easily overcome. If you remove the Holden V8 & 4spd, don't sell it, put it under the bench for a little while. If you don't have the money to do it, slow down. If you want to have a Holden V8 in the end, don't sell your conversion.

 

You should be able to get a running Holden 6 for a few hundred bucks - $600 is over the top unless it's a known good motor that has had its performance improved considerably. Getting an Aussie four speed and clutch mechanism suit 6cyl will be another few hundred bucks. You will need a few things by the time you've got a flywheel, clutch etc. I'm doing a V8 conversion now and have all of the gearbox stuff available if you are interested, but I am in Melbourne.



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 10:12 AM

alright, im trying to relax haha, and did u mean u have 202 stuff available?, or v8 ..? i am going to rta today and talking to a guy about it and if theres any ways around it, if not ill be finding a running 202 like u said and going with you guys advice cause yous sound like you know what your talking about, when i have no clue haha, thanks guys



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 11:50 AM

just throw a 202 4 speed in it, im running a bog stocker 202 in my ute, its fairly loud, coppers dont annoying me, only been pulled up cause they liked the colour and told me to take care of it, I got a 4speed for $50, changed the oil and put it in, 2nd and 3rd synco's are shot, but i just take care of it,

and remember old holdens and fuel economy can never be put together :)

 

being a UC you'll mostlikely have to run polution gear, but you could get away without it,

 

drop tank should be fine,  upgraded brakes that need enginnering with a P Plater driver im not sure about, and there was something about a 9inch diff being a performance mod but i dont see how it would be

 

i only find a few loops for engines, e.g i can put a commy VT efi 5L in my ute and be legal :P



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 12:10 PM

yeah im looking around for a 202 now, if you no any that is selling one or good spots to look, just let me know :), yeah i dont see how a 9 inch diff counts as preformance mod either. 



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 02:05 PM

hey guys what do you think of this motor???? http://www.ebay.com....=item3aa064b5d2



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 02:25 PM

Good as anything.

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Posted 22 January 2015 - 02:45 PM

alright sweet as :) but you know how you guys said that cause the 308 is not the original motor than i cant drive it on my p's... is the blue 202 the original uc engine??



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Posted 22 January 2015 - 03:07 PM

Nope.

But i cant see a huge issue.

Once again check with the relevant authorities.

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Posted 22 January 2015 - 03:07 PM

Probably better if you can get something with an M20 behind it already, then you can retain the tailshaft, pedal box, enjoyment of driving etc. The blue 202 for all intents and purposes should be considered an original engine, and it basically bolts in but a red motor would perhaps be more suitable for ease of exhaust parts etc.

 

A cop won't even stick his head under your car, but tell him a 9" is a reliability mod due to all the burnouts that you do at off-street venues haha.

 

I have a great 6cyl exhaust and 6cyl manual conversion and all that stuff, but it may be easier for you to find local gear.



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Posted 23 January 2015 - 11:45 AM

yeah, im not going for that blue 202 i showed yous the link of, and yeah ill try get local gear if i have to..







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