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#1 basicgreen

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:10 AM

hay had a thought if you get a v6 supercharger blocked of the pipe that hangs out the back weld it up or something. then growned down a flat spot on the top cut a hole and welded a 1ich spacer plate on top then bolt carby to that. i dont no much about how they work but just an idea?????? any one       



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Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:24 AM

You can buy top entry m90s.

The rear entry would be good for keeping it under the bonnet.

Aussiespeed does a manifold to bolt i on.

I think there a little bit small, the 112 woud be better imo for a strong six.

Cant handle much boost either.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 12:56 AM

Not to sure about this rear entry stuff.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:24 AM

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 11:43 AM

ok thanks have not found the top entry ones. yea aussiespeed do do the manifold. was just thinking can get blower for 200 spacer for 50 sell my manifold buy new one and pulleys hope to get all bits (with selling my manifold) for around 1000. just thinking out load??. have a bit of room under fb bonnet 

rear entry  :blink2:


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:38 PM

Why not buy a whole blown 6 from a V2 or VS or whatever and put it in. Probably cheaper and more reliable in the end.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:48 PM

Because that would be really, really shit. 

 

Not to mention you wouldnt be able to register it in most states. 


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:52 PM

Not to sure about this rear entry stuff.


Gene could give some advice on that ;)

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 07:01 PM

Forget all of those pretend superchargers & get one of those 4/71 fisher blower kits for your engine, WAY better looking... and not rear entry.

Edited by SA EH, 10 February 2015 - 07:03 PM.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 07:13 PM

Because that would be really, really shit. 

 

Not to mention you wouldnt be able to register it in most states. 

 


Why wouldn't it be registerable Bomber? If a Supercharged or turbo 202 is legal surely a supercharged 3.8 would be (with Engineering which a supercharged 202 would need today anyway)?

 

They are 171kW. Not my taste but a whole one of these engines is cheap, whole cars are cheap.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 07:18 PM

Under the NCOP the maximum sized engine you can fit into a LC/LJ Torana is 2.6 litres if it has forced induction. 

 

Box toranas are about 3.3lt I think. 

 

There is a loophole somewhere that i need to find again that says you can put forced induction on a factory fitted engine providing bla bla bla. 

 

Turbo'd 202's havnt been legal in Baby Toranas in QLD for the last 15 years or so, only just recently allowable again under the NCOP. 

 

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 07:22 PM

OK I get it, I didn't realize it was an LC-LJ.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 08:01 PM

But it's an FB.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 08:46 PM

You can Engineer a V8 in an old Holden so a blown 6 would be probably OK?

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:33 PM

I was just speaking from experience, no idea what a FB weighs but i recon it would be similar to a LH/LX. 

 

Also, 175kw is pathetic, not worth the wiring gremlins. 

 

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:43 PM

Under the NCOP the maximum sized engine you can fit into a LC/LJ Torana is 2.6 litres if it has forced induction. 

 

Box toranas are about 3.3lt I think. 

 

There is a loophole somewhere that i need to find again that says you can put forced induction on a factory fitted engine providing bla bla bla. 

 

Turbo'd 202's havnt been legal in Baby Toranas in QLD for the last 15 years or so, only just recently allowable again under the NCOP. 

 

Cheers. 

my turbo 186 lj torana has a la3 code from the dot in qld.it is regestrered.



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 05:49 AM

I was just speaking from experience, no idea what a FB weighs but i recon it would be similar to a LH/LX. 

 

Also, 175kw is pathetic, not worth the wiring gremlins. 

 

Cheers. 

 

That is 171kW net, probably in early 70's gross figures it'd probably be over 325hp, maybe 350hp. An injected 304 from a VN-VSIII was only 165kW.

 

A pollution red 308 was 250hp or so in gross figures but only about 125kW net.

 

So one of these supercharged engines whilst not my favourite thing would go probably better than a worked 308 or injected 304.

 

The stock V6 in my Hilux dynoed at 127kW at the rear wheels, which probably would be close to 171kW net at the engine, one of these engines in a light car like an FB would be pretty quick too. 
 



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 07:42 AM

The naurally aspirated four litre would be a lot easyer to get engineered.

A lot more reliable to, those stupid superharged v6 thigs are renowned for issues.

175kw at the fly is pretry straight foward with an aspirated inlie six.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 10:55 AM

You do see a lot of VN- VS V6 engines in old Holdens, just thought a blown one would be a natural progression if you wanted to stay with 3/4 of the proper number of pistons!

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 11:08 AM

Yeah,honestly dont kno why anyone would take a step backwards by fitting one of those v6 commy engines tbh.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 11:40 AM

From an old grey?
I get the attraction from the ease of fitting a modern ULP ready efficient engine with air and steer all sorted for you on the engine, and also the ease of fitting an overdrive auto or manual without adaption. My VSIII manual ute easily got over 30mpg. Plus a whole car costs $500 and no rebuilding needed if you pick the right one.
But if it was me going to the trouble i'd rather fit an injected 304 or LS engine into a HK than bother with earlier stuff.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 11:54 AM

hi yea no way i would put v6 commy motor in my fb i like the 6 

clayton the 4/71 would be nice but come at a cost and still trying to keep under bonnet maybe a little scoop if need 

as said just a thought 



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 02:46 PM

Like any engine if you know what your doing they can be made to perform well. I have a factory super 6 out of a vt in my uc. Runs 10.4 down the qtr. te m90 would perform well on an inline 6. The problem is the intake temps. You need to cool the air coming out of the m90 once u downsize the pulley to make more boost it puts out a fair ammount of heat. Have a look at my build thread if you want some ideas on how to make the absolute most out of an m90. There's info on porting intercooler setups etc.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 03:24 PM

^^That is what I was getting at, to get a UC down the quarter in 10.4 you'd want a pretty well sorted Holden 6 and I doubt it'd be as reliable or as fuel efficient.



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 04:07 PM

10.4 is balls to the wall in a big torana.

Hayden's car is an awesome example of what's possible.

I wouldn't run one myself for a variety of reasons but all the same I appreciate what he's done




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