Re : torana
#1 _A9X 05_
Posted 07 August 2015 - 07:05 AM
Chassis number matches the PSN
Thanks
#2
Posted 07 August 2015 - 07:53 AM
Nope, it's the Body number that should match the PSN.
#3
Posted 07 August 2015 - 07:56 AM
And only on some Toranas.
#4
Posted 07 August 2015 - 11:01 AM
We can tell you if the body number is within the usual range of the chassis number, but not unless you tell us what those numbers are?
#5 _A9X 05_
Posted 07 August 2015 - 12:25 PM
Car is A9X 4 door
10/77
CLXO 55943M
Want to make sure this tag is a a9 x tag and not a sl tag
#6
Posted 07 August 2015 - 01:05 PM
That chassis number is bang in the middle of A9X production, but that's not confirmation that it's actually from an A9X.
The body numbers from that period begin with 594*** or 595*** and obviously the body number is easily confirmed from the listing Eric Blair's book. If you don't have a copy then post the PSN and I'll look it up for you?
As you're looking at an A9X, somebody may well have that particular car listed in a register somewhere, hopefully one of those somebodies is reading...
#7 _A9X 05_
Posted 07 August 2015 - 03:57 PM
DRIVERS SIDE TAG: CLXO 55943M
YEAR : 10/1977
MIDDLE TAG: 8D69TH J594898X
ENGINE : HT73545
CLOCK: 26H7
#8
Posted 07 August 2015 - 06:46 PM
Everything there (including the engine number and date code) seems to agree 100%
J594898 is/was a Flamenco Red - Slate Black (1926-18V) A9X sedan
With options: A22,A8F,A8G,A9X,D72,G70,JM8,L31,M21,QDA,TT5,UL5,V5B,XS6,XT4
Sold by dealer code 895 (I can't seem to find my list of dealer codes right now, hopefully someone else can let us know)
Ordered: 15th September 1977 - Built: 6th October 1977 - Sold: 31st October 1977
That vehicle also has a note against the order of "COLOUR NO LONGER AVAIL PS REF BULLETIN & ADVISE ALTERN"
EDIT:
Found it, dealer 895 was apparently Zupps Holden of Mt Gravatt QLD
Edited by Bigfella237, 07 August 2015 - 06:54 PM.
#9
Posted 07 August 2015 - 07:07 PM
BTW, that colour/trim combo was by far the most common combination for an A9X
Of the 305 sedans made there were 81 in Flamenco Red (63 with Slate Black trim and 18 with Chamois trim).
The second-most common were Palais White sedans with 62 made.
Edited by Bigfella237, 07 August 2015 - 07:10 PM.
#10 _A9X 05_
Posted 07 August 2015 - 09:55 PM
Much appreciated
Ok my question now is the
(CLXO 55943M 10/77 Tag) does it belong to the above information you have given me.,
need to make sure this tag belongs to this car and is not a 10/77 SL torana tag
any way of finding out
I know that the middle tag and the passenger tag matches( the drivers tag is the one I need to know about
thanks andrew
#11
Posted 08 August 2015 - 12:41 AM
Officially the answer is no, there is no direct correlation between the PSN, engine and chassis numbers beside the sequences lining up as above, even Holden couldn't tell you at this stage.
But you still have a few options, the best evidence is always original paperwork like the build sheet, owner's manual, sales contract, rego papers, etc.
You could try going back to the selling and/or servicing dealer, some dealers have kept records going back millennia (but usually only if they haven't changed hands)? Bear in mind that it may take considerable work for a dealer to dig back through pre-digitised records so it might help if you offer to pay for any information they can provide.
Also as previously mentioned, with this being an A9X, somebody like the A9X Club would no doubt have a comprehensive register of vehicles so you may be able to run a query by them, they like to keep track of who owns/owned what, where and when.
I am by no means an expert but everything looks okay to me, all the numbers and dates seem to fall exactly where they should, it would be pretty hard these days to locate a donor car with such a close chassis number but that's not saying something dodgy wasn't done thirty years ago, without paperwork that would be near impossible to trace.
Edited by Bigfella237, 08 August 2015 - 12:43 AM.
#12
Posted 08 August 2015 - 12:53 AM
Oh yeah, one last (tiny little) thing...
No A9X should ever have had ADR 9 listed on the compliance plate since that only applies to automatic vehicles, it's not much help I know but at least it's one more box ticked.
#13 _A9X 05_
Posted 08 August 2015 - 04:17 AM
you have been a great help
#14 _sstorana_
Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:18 PM
Don,
to verify what you have, you might want to get in touch with Holden Historical Services. (They are NOT Holden by the way)
cheers
Mick
#15
Posted 09 August 2015 - 09:50 AM
^ agree- good advice Mick.
#16 _A9X 05_
Posted 09 August 2015 - 09:04 PM
I will get in touch with them
cheers
#17
Posted 08 December 2018 - 04:55 PM
Bit of a thread resurrection (sorry) but this was the only search hit on the forum.
I've been doing a little light reading of my Torana reference books and have a quick question or four, specifically I'm trying to identify some production options that appear on the A9X register but not in the list of regular production options, if anyone can confirm the following I'd be grateful:
DL5 (only appears on hatches, I assume this is "DELETE STRIPE" as it was for the big Holdens of the time)
D72 (I'm guessing this is "DELETE CONSOLE")
V5B (no idea)
XT4 (no idea)
#18
Posted 08 December 2018 - 06:22 PM
Hi Andrew
The following is what I was able to find in Torana Tough.
XT4 = ADR 27A compliant engine.
D72 = Delete Body items
DL5 = ???????.
DL7 = Delete side stripes (8VD77 only)
D50 = Delete console
V5B = Air flow equipment.
#19
Posted 08 December 2018 - 06:53 PM
Thanks Dave!
And sorry, "DL5" was my typo, it was supposed to be "DL7", and it was definitely "DELETE STRIPES" on the big Holdens, there are a few mentions of that option on the Sandman forum so I think it's pretty safe to assume that's the same for the Torana line.
D50 doesn't show on the A9X printout but D72 does (for both sedan and hatch). I guess they probably amount to roughly the same thing anyway? I can't think what other body items would've got deleted on A9X?
V5B = "AIR FLOW EQUIPMENT" - as this only seems to apply to A9X, I assume it's something to do with the flares and/or the front brake ducts?
#20
Posted 08 December 2018 - 07:23 PM
#21
Posted 08 December 2018 - 08:23 PM
D72 may have been to delete the chrome trims around the side window frames?
I'd reckon Air Flow Equipment would be the brake air ducts.
Edited by S pack, 08 December 2018 - 08:25 PM.
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