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torana lh high energy sump volume nd dipstick size

Started by _parsons5000_ , Oct 04 2015 01:55 PM

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#1 _parsons5000_

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Posted 04 October 2015 - 01:55 PM

hey guys i have my holden 308 original dipstick and its a little longer then the aftermarket chrome dipsticks off the shelf , question is how many litres does the high energy bigger sumps fit and what length dipstick to get accurst reading ?

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#2 _Mint_

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Posted 04 October 2015 - 08:44 PM

Ryan..if its a Hi Energy "Street Pan" then its very similar to an ASR Street Pan which i have(the guy at ASR used to work for Hi Energy)

my pan holds 6.2 lts hope that helps

Edited by Mint Julip, 04 October 2015 - 08:45 PM.

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#3 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 04 October 2015 - 09:04 PM

just make this confusing. mine takes 7.5 liters with the filter when i do a oil change??

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#4 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:53 AM

Bringing back a old thread.. how much does your hv sump hold on a 308/355 if u have one???

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#5 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 11:54 AM

Also if the pan was see though looking from the side where would the oil level be?? To the top of the pan, level with the bottom or the dip stick hole. XXmm from the top down?

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 03:13 PM

The advice from high energy was to use the standard dipstick.
On the hatch their street pan takes 5 litres to reach the ADD mark, including changing a Z160 filter.

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#7 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 03:36 PM

What would that make till full? Most I've read are saying 7lts to full. I was wrong with the above statement saying mine is 7.5lt. Done a change today and only drained bit over 5lt. That was full on my dipstick but it's one of those flexible dipsticks just not sure if I have set it right when engraved full and add marks.. 5lts total jus doesn't seem right when most say 7lt?

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 03:56 PM

Couple I've had were roughly 7 litres with big filter.Think had an early one that was 6 litres..still sucked buying 2 bottles.

Always used new hq tube/dipstick then modded hell out of them to fit efi extractors.

Long tube is usually commodre item.

Do know stock commodore item takes 5 litres.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 05:25 PM

Also if the pan was see though looking from the side where would the oil level be?? To the top of the pan, level with the bottom or the dip stick hole. XXmm from the top down?

Of course this is the only relevant question, it makes no difference if the pan has huge wings and holds 20 litres of oil, or if you have 12 oil coolers and 9 remote oil filters, it's the correct LEVEL you need to determine.

The level would be easy to measure if you have a sump off the engine, just fit the tube & dipstick and grab a ruler.

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#10 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:03 PM

what would this level be though?? just below the cranks lowest point??

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:30 PM

I'd start with 7 litres. Run it at idle and listen cos you will hear the crank slapping the oil if it's too much.. Add until you hear it slapping, then drain off accordingly.

Recalibrate your dipstick to suit.

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#12 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:37 PM

I'd start with 7 litres. Run it at idle and listen cos you will hear the crank slapping the oil if it's too much.. Add until you hear it slapping, then drain off accordingly.

Recalibrate your dipstick to suit.

with my exhaust i dont think id hear sh*t unless oil slapping is very noisy??

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:41 PM

It is at idle

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:50 PM

The advice from high energy was to use the standard dipstick.
On the hatch their street pan takes 5 litres to reach the ADD mark, including changing a Z160 filter.

With Z160 filter change is 6 litres to the FULL mark.

As I said, the advice directly from High Energy was to use the original Torana dipstick and that this will read correctly.

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#15 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:02 PM

unfortunately i dont have an original stick anymore to check that, but i i have just put 6lts in and its very high on the braided flexi tube i have,, i may not of set the height on this correct from day one?

ill take your word for it and go with the 6lts for now and redo my heights on the stick..

if the oil was to high what other tell tails would there be ??? or how can u tell??

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#16 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:05 PM

It is at idle

at idle it is still not the quietest of exhausts with the 6lt in it atm i cant say i hear anything odd at all but not sure what oil slapping would sound like or how loud it would be???

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:19 PM

Sound like a clonk clonk clonk. I used to run 6litres in a standard commodore 202 6 sump on the grease slapper with no issue.

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#18 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:31 PM

ok thanks heaps Rob.

so not a clunk or click or clap just a clonk haha..

ill go with the 6lts as im going to make up a new dipstick tube out of alloy and will reset my heights to suit..

thanks again, your info and help is very much appreciated.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:36 PM

Yeah the clonk echos through the sump sheet metal

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#20 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:42 PM

apart from a clonk what other tell tails would indicate over full??

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#21 _LS1 Taxi_

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 08:56 AM

The key height is the distance from the top of the oil to top of the oil pan...ie: the distance the oil is away from the rotating assembly.
Anyone with a sump, dipstick and tube off a Holden v8 can fill a sump to the full mark on the dipstick and measure how far down the sump Is the liquid.

My prediction is that the oil almost fills the hump section of the sump.

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#22 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 12:05 PM

I see. Now i just nee to fimd a sump etc. Anyone got a sump off with the factory dips stick and able to measure as above for me???

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#24 _76lxJAS_

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 03:14 PM

cheers that is some help,, does the flare on the tube sit level with the top of where its inserted or does it sit down in the hole if that makes sense?? would you say flare to full is about 82mm??

also if u have a sump off could you install one of them and fill the sump on level ground with a fluid of choice up to the full mark and measure from the gasket surface/top of the sump down to where the fluid is?? its the gap of air between the bottom of the block and where the fluid starts the would be extremely handy..

Edited by 76lxJAS, 01 April 2017 - 03:15 PM.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 06:45 AM

You will find that the flare does drop onto the tube, but your tube should do that too. So just mark your dipstick 8.5cm down from the flare and that is the full mark. As for the add mark..... that will vary depending on your sump capacity and oil pick up height.