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[nzxu1]

l  just happen to be going through the throes of selling my 73  Bathurst  XU1 right at this very moment that the previous  now locked thread about  dual cast blocks appeared on this forum  . It really annoys the   ***p out of me that people who have never even owned one of these cars but have an * expert opinion * about what should and shouldn't  constitute a genuine engine . l have already had one perspective buyer of my car  ask me  if it has a dual cast block simply from reading the uneducated and ***t stirring rubbish that is allowed to be posted here .

 

 In MY opinion only  , it is nothing more than an urban myth/legend  that there is a difference  ALLLLLLLLLLLL  202 blocks  up until about late 1974 or so were  ALLLLLLLLLLL  the same , cast from the same material but  were cast in different moulds of course .  Imagine if  GMH  had to wait for blocks to be cast using just one mould  ........., would have taken forever to create enough engines for all the HQ , JL gtr  toranas and of course XU1's  so there were  BOUND  to be differences as producing exactly  identical moulds would be near impossible .  Once  created , all  202  blocks  would have been put on the  racks  and then mixed and matched amongst the different models requiring a 202 ,  and then once the engine was built and ready to drop in wether it be for   HQ , GTR or  XU1   THEN AND ONLY THEN  was it stamped with it's engine number .

 

Picture of the casting date of my 73  Bathurst and  NO , it does not have a  friggen dual cast date either .

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[yel327]

Another one. Is it an Acacia Ridge or Elizabeth build? Was it sold new in NZ?

[S pack]

nzxu1

 

If you like I could take a look at your engine number for you. PM me if interested so I can supply you my email.

Any correspondence and pics will be treated in the strictest confidence.

 

Cheers

Dave.

[nzxu1]

Car was sold new in Oz and privately imported into  NZ  . l am only the 4th owner from brand   new .  l have spoken to the original owner of this car who bought it  new and he has told me a couple of things about the engine .  Thanks for your offer   Dave  but  this engine  IS  the original that belongs with the car .

[S pack]

Car was sold new in Oz and privately imported into  NZ  . l am only the 4th owner from brand   new .  l have spoken to the original owner of this car who bought it  new and he has told me a couple of things about the engine .  Thanks for your offer   Dave  but  this engine  IS  the original that belongs with the car .

No probs mate.

[crabba67]

John,Can you put a picture up of the engine stamping and number on the exhaust side?

Cheers

[S pack]

John,Can you put a picture up of the engine stamping and number on the exhaust side?

Cheers

Why? So you can tell him it is a restamp?

It is you blokes he is pretty pissed off at for starting the 'all 150 list XU1 engines must be a dual cast block' BS.

[crabba67]

John,Did Strom a forum member own your xu1 before you?

Cheers 

[nzxu1]

It's not advertised anywhere , just word of mouth ...................l've had 2 approaches about it  , one from  NZ and one from OZ  ...........l don't think the previous owner was a forum member  .

[N/A-PWR]

I like this,

 

 In MY opinion only  , it is nothing more than an urban myth/legend  that there is a difference  ALLLLLLLLLLLL  202 blocks  up until about late 1974 or so were  ALLLLLLLLLLL  the same , cast from the same material but  were cast in different moulds of course .  Imagine if  GMH  had to wait for blocks to be cast using just one mould  ........., would have taken forever to create enough engines for all the HQ , JL gtr  toranas and of course XU1's  so there were  BOUND  to be differences as producing exactly  identical moulds would be near impossible .  Once  created , all  202  blocks  would have been put on the  racks  and then mixed and matched amongst the different models requiring a 202 ,  and then once the engine was built and ready to drop in whether it be for   HQ , GTR or  XU1   THEN AND ONLY THEN  was it stamped with it's engine number .

 

 and would also suggest, that the engine number stampers, would not have always picked the number '3' blocks for the JP stamping!

 

 as we all know, not everyone is perfect, and the rules would of been relaxed.

 

 

 

 

 

Edit:- 

 

Like button for you,

 

and would be good to have a picture of these engines in a rack or something waiting hey.

 

Craig filed this lot:-

 

http://www.gmh-toran...e-8#entry949316

Edited by NA-PWR, 11 April 2016 - 03:25 PM.

[N/A-PWR]

so that is the single carburetor motor lot ^,

 

there would have to have been a triples manifold lot somewhere else?

[N/A-PWR]

notice, how the QC's are at one end of the motor, maybe checking head numbers?

[N/A-PWR]

or checking the motors in the next row, hmm.

[N/A-PWR]

Definitely not checking Engine Numbers.

 but one QC is writing something down.

[N/A-PWR]

The motors are not posing Adam,

 

 and I would of thought in those days, that you would of looked like you were doing your job.

Edited by NA-PWR, 11 April 2016 - 05:13 PM.

[N/A-PWR]

no worries mate, I stop.

just thought there was information in that photo, cheers.

[xu2308]

NZXU1

There were Dual Cast Engines on Said 150 List   Cant say there wasn't any

[rodomo]

I'm with you Dave..........................Those engines were special....................................EH Special

[N/A-PWR]

Well that is Special.