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#1 adam_73LJ

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 11:24 AM

Hi,

 

Just wondering if anyone has delt with triple 45mm Mikuni carbs on a holden 6. Any comments, pro's or con's or otherwise. How they compare to SU's and Webbers etc.

 

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:03 PM

Great choice Adam,

 

I have spoken to Oldjohnno about the 45mm too,

 

 but is said that the HSR-42 is the best option,

 

 as they are a great deal more efficient and is plenty,

 

 for 250cfm port flow. :)



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:51 PM

I have the HSR-42s on mine. I have no complaints, throttles crisp, tuning was no problems once I realised they don't like a big balance tube in the manifold like SUs usually run. I blanked them off and the big flat spot I had at low speed went away using a Redline manifold.

My cam is a Crow 35626 and I still get 11l/100km on the highway (I do run a 5 speed with 3.08 gears however) and around 15L around town. Cold starting is fine without the choke.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:58 PM

Fantastic information Peter,

 

 could we get a photo of what they look like on the manifold please?

 

 

 

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 02:06 PM

Ohhhh...YES PLEASE..

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 02:42 PM

I have the HSR-42s on mine. I have no complaints, throttles crisp, tuning was no problems once I realised they don't like a big balance tube in the manifold like SUs usually run. I blanked them off and the big flat spot I had at low speed went away using a Redline manifold.

My cam is a Crow 35626 and I still get 11l/100km on the highway (I do run a 5 speed with 3.08 gears however) and around 15L around town. Cold starting is fine without the choke.

pics or it doesn't exist lol



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:59 PM

Be careful - these flow MUCH MUCH more than the equivalent Weber so be very careful not to over-carb your engine. As Peter said you don't want any interconnection between carbs and you want to keep runner volume low; definitely no plenum. And they'll tolerate quite a lot of cam and still remain civil.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 06:26 PM

Don't overlook Keihins FCR range - with sizes from 33 to 41 these are probably going to be a better match for street/strip cars.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 08:47 PM

Keihins FCR,

 

 thanks Oldjohnno. :)

 

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 now goes and find prices to compare to HSR



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 09:48 PM

As much as I like the HSRs and FCRs I have to say that for any hot street engine I wouldn't even consider anything other than 2" SUs. The old fossils flow much better than you'd expect at WOT, needles are readily available (so there's no excuse for a poor tune) and on a HP per dollar basis they can't be beat. For a maximum effort race engine the HSR's would have a small advantage but on the street a set of unmolested SUs would still be my first choice.



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 06:21 AM

As much as I like the HSRs and FCRs I have to say that for any hot street engine I wouldn't even consider anything other than 2" SUs. The old fossils flow much better than you'd expect at WOT, needles are readily available (so there's no excuse for a poor tune) and on a HP per dollar basis they can't be beat. For a maximum effort race engine the HSR's would have a small advantage but on the street a set of unmolested SUs would still be my first choice.

I am planning on putting on my set of HS8s in the next few weeks to test back to back against my 45DCOE webers. I will be tuning with my Innovate LM-2 wideband/data logger . 

 

I rebuilt the 2 inch SUs and put in UP needles, .125 jet... so hopefully they are close...



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 01:07 PM

I'll post some photos when I get home :)



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 09:48 PM

As promised

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:09 PM

Very neat set-up Peter,

 

 

 thank-you very much, most appreciated Mate. :)

 

 

 

 

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 06:41 AM

They look great...



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Posted 21 September 2016 - 07:15 PM

Never seen them thats cool. Are they after market and new or are they of a old Datsun or something.

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 07:30 PM

peter what manifold did you use any on top shots , it looks like a simple set up 



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Posted 21 September 2016 - 07:34 PM

First time ive ever seen a set on a Torana they look good Peter

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 08:31 PM

Mmm.they sure look good.that redline
manifold is similar in design to warnefords.runners have an s design on
outers for ease of instalation with cars
such as ehs to have clearance off firewalls.
ive been looking at Sonics single mani design
as runners are straight.hes actually looking
into making all 3 runners together.
im interested to know how much of an angle
the mikunis can be set on an incline.i gather
not much more than how Pete's setup is..i
would like them to b a little straighter

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 01:03 PM

As above it's a Redline manifold, I was going to use an old Cain or Armors setup but I couldn't find one when I was looking and the Redline seemed all that was available at the time. Besides the drop in flow through that kink would be minor at best. I actually spoke to Ian Tate about it before I bought one and he uses them and has no issue.

The setup is pretty simple, the place I bought them from extends the throttle shafts so they can be joined with a solid shaft (8mm from memory) using rod clamps. The throttle cable is the standard one and connects to the carbs with a clamp on mount onto the throttle connecting shaft and the cable sheath mount is a simple bracket made up. 



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Posted 22 September 2016 - 02:41 PM

Thanks for that little info Peter.thats
reasuring the the red manifold is good to use
I overlooked it at first and have been trying
to find warneford without much success.
near same in design .a setup i found with
with mikunis on had a great linkage setup
Your linkage setup is even simpler and very
tidy..can i ask where did you get your
setup through that extends the throttle shafts
for ease of installation...

Cheers maz
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Posted 22 September 2016 - 03:02 PM

So do these use a Stromberg /SU bolt pattern to mount them?

It's good to see someone doing something different for a change.

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 03:02 PM


ive been looking at Sonics single mani design
as runners are straight.hes actually looking
into making all 3 runners together.[/quote]

If all three runners were together i wonder if two carbs would be enough as you would draw from both carbs with each inlet pulse.

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:22 PM

So do these use a Stromberg /SU bolt pattern to mount them?
It's good to see someone doing something different for a change.

They use these fittings James
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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:26 PM

Wouldnt 3-4 get more juice then than 1-2 5-6 ?
Or one carb fedding 3 .

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