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[yel327]

All cool, just pointing out it isn’t anywhere near the 168750th vehicle out of Adelaide, and L is also used in Western Australian assembled PSN’s.

[Bazza]

yel327

 

Point taken. It appears that I misinterpreted what was said in the article 'By The Numbers" all those years ago and thought nothing more of it. I am aware of L1 to L5. L6 to L9, J1 to J9, H1 to H4 and H5 to H9 so there's no need to elaborate on that. I am guessing that the sequence of alpha characters followed by numeric characters is called the 'Production Sequence Number (PSN) for a reason. By definition it has something to do with the number of vehicles produced and, yes, I know that it represents a mix of all vehicles (not just Toranas). I would love to know the origin of the PSN format as it appears above and leaving out the "L1", what the remaining digits represent.

 

Thanks

 

Bazza

[yel327]

It is a cumulative total of assembled vehicles from a certain date out of a particular assembly plant. They key is “a certain date”. It started in that form from about 9/67. Prior to then it started with S or B or M or the like and was on that little screwed on plate, and it reset a few times. As far as I know it is a GM wide system on the form we are more familiar with (HK onwards).

It also doesn’t include semi-completed vehicles like for example complete LC exported to Pagewood to have the mechanicals installed and be finished, or all the painted and hard trimmed cab-chassis or van bodies from Elizabeth. These got at least an Elizabeth body plate and in some cases an Elizabeth chassis number and ADR plate but the assembly plant’s VIN plate (and hence PSN). From a certain date these got the PSN on the body plate from the body plant location. Nor does it include stuff like the complete cars built but never intended to be “a car” like the Torana and Commodore race cars.

The other quirk is when it was assigned. Dandenong and Acacia Ridge appear to have assigned it when the car went into the schedule. Pagewood assigned it right at the end of the assembly plant, so really at Pagewood it gave you a cumulative total of sorts but at Dandenong a car with PSN 123456 could actually be 1000’s off any total as it may have been fast tracked and completed prior to many in the schedule.

There are other quirks too like Woodville and the truck assembly plants that used the same PSN as the same State assembly plants.

Edited by yel327, 07 May 2020 - 07:37 AM.

[S pack]

The other quirk is when it was assigned. Dandenong and Acacia Ridge appear to have assigned it when the car went into the schedule. Pagewood assigned it right at the end of the assembly plant, so really at Pagewood it gave you a cumulative total of sorts but at Dandenong a car with PSN 123456 could actually be 1000’s off any total as it may have been fast tracked and completed prior to many in the schedule.
 

Byron. I think you will find Elizabeth assigned the PSN when the vehicle was put into the schedule and Acacia Ridge, like Pagewood, assigned their PSN's at the end of the assembly line.

[yel327]

Could be, but it did change at certain times too like when Acacia Ridge started using the PSN numerals as the body number. Changes across all plants appear to be voluntarily or forced at various times.

[yel327]

If that was the case for Elizabeth then what I stated about Dandenong in that last sentence applies to Elizabeth as well.

[S pack]

If that was the case for Elizabeth then what I stated about Dandenong in that last sentence applies to Elizabeth as well.

Have a look at an early 1970's Elizabeth Broadcast sheet. The PSN was assigned before or when the Broadcast sheet was produced. At a point in time in early 1973? the Body number was also assigned along with the PSN on the Broadcast sheet. Dandenong I can't comment on.

[yel327]

I agree that was the case, just couldn’t remember Elizabeth’s method in my post so left it out. They did do things a bit differently to others. I’ve had far more dealings with Pagewood and Dandenong assembles cars when collecting ID.

[S pack]

 S Pack 

is your Car the  73 LJ 4 door a Brisbane car or Adel car ?

cheers 

FYI my LJ only has 2 doors.

Edited by S pack, 09 May 2020 - 09:00 PM.

[grumpy xu1]

ROCKER COVER, covers the "rockers" no rockets found in Torana's !

[rodomo]

"Rocket cover" has more appeal but?

[zookie]

Hi Guys,

Just wondering what S/DLR 000  and Z4  means on the vehicle master listing?

 

Cheers

Darren

[yel327]

000 means there is no dealer code recorded for the car, so it was either used internal, not sold when the report was printed or an export. The Zone is the zone office that processed the order of the car. They have letters or numbers depending upon whether they were located or what their purpose was. I can't remember them all.

[davea79]

Pm sent for verification to Bazza

[S pack]

Mike, I don't believe eng # F10638 is original to your car. 173S Engine numbers around that number can be found in 11th month Elizabeth built GTR's so it is highly likely your engine came from an Elizabeth car that has no engine number recorded in the Vehicle Master Listing.

 

I have searched both the Acacia Ridge and Elizabeth records and did not find CF10638 but I may have missed it.

Edited by S pack, 05 September 2020 - 08:09 AM.

[S pack]

PM sent

[CYCO355]

Just chasing info for a workmate who owns a lc 2 door he suspects is a gtr, it’s missing the 2 tags from the radiator support panel. The chassis number matches the tag on firewall. He understands it essentially is just a 2 door torana but would like to find out anything about it if possible form the chassis number? LC 24574A, Cheers for any info found.

[S pack]

Just chasing info for a workmate who owns a lc 2 door he suspects is a gtr, it’s missing the 2 tags from the radiator support panel. The chassis number matches the tag on firewall. He understands it essentially is just a 2 door torana but would like to find out anything about it if possible form the chassis number? LC 24574A, Cheers for any info found.

Remove the compliance plate and see what the numbers are scratched into the reverse side. Should be the last 4 digits of the PSN.

The cars identity should be able to be revealed from those 4 numbers.

Edited by S pack, 07 January 2021 - 04:31 PM.

[CYCO355]

Remove the compliance plate and see what the numbers are scratched into the reverse side. Should be the last 4 digits of the PSN.

The cars identity should be able to be revealed from those 4 numbers.

Hi Dave, he has taken the tag off and it has 9491 on the back, it’s tagged as a 2/71 build.
Cheers again.