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[mandytory]

Has anyone had any experience with Torqueline Torque Loc diff carrier. I am after a limited slip for a 9" in a mild street hatch. Not after full locker but want traction to both wheels .

[Bigfella237]

To be honest I've never heard of "Torqueline"? Generally your options are:

 

Detroit Locker - now made by Eaton although tens of thousands of them came from the ford factory, these are kind of 'all or nothing' centre (either locked or not) and can be a bit clunky/noisy in their operation, but probably the cheapest option if you can find a second hand unit?

 

Eaton also make a proper LSD called the "TrueTrac"

 

Harrop Engineering make a higher torque rated version of the TrueTrac

 

Strange Engineering make a centre called the "S-Trac Helical Gear"

 

And then there's the "WaveTrac"

 

The Eaton TrueTrac and the Strange S-Trac are both just under the thousand dollar mark last time I looked, the Harrop and WaveTrac centres are a little more expensive again.

 

What sort of price are they asking for the "Torque Loc"?

Edited by Bigfella237, 01 March 2017 - 01:02 PM.

[mandytory]

Thanks for run down on options Bigfella327. The torque loc is about $550 on eBay. Says made in Australia. Reads well but can't find much info.

[Uncle Chop Chop]

Lock Right by Richmond gear is a tricky bit of engineering.

[ozyozyozy]

Take the truetrac and melt it down for scrap metal.
Thes DO open wheel under certain conditions, and when they finally lock during that condition, can fire you of the road. They can make the car a bit unstable in the rear under hard braking too.

The wavetrac seems to be the best performance/value for money at this stage. Have had prices of just under $1000 not installed. They are a truetrac with some tricky extras, help lock more positively not just lock when they feel like it.

Clutch lsd's are the best.
to be honest, the only decent versions of these are over priced for what most people would want them for. Alot of the cheap mainstream versions are that, cheap, they break or wear out quickly. Expect to pay$300+ for the good ones.
If KAAZ finally decide to make one for a 9 inch, get that.

Detroit lockers are tunable, via a spring, still are noisey, require a different driving style, very strong tho.
Can bite you hard if ot careful when turning.

[Racehatch]

Clutch lsd's are the best.
to be honest, the only decent versions of these are over priced for what most people would want them for. Alot of the cheap mainstream versions are that, cheap, they break or wear out quickly. Expect to pay$300+ for the good ones.

 

You forgot a zero - the modena lsd is $3000

 

I'm struggling with this at the moment, I have been running a truetrac and as you say, it doesn't work well in a motorsport application - definitely makes the car more unstable in corner entry and mine started grinding itself to bits as the oil got too hot - not sure im up for the 3K modena one though - i was going to see if I could make a yukon 9inch lsd live - you dont get much room for error with a clutch plate type lsd though, if you get one wheel on the dirt and  it will toast it pretty quickly..

 

Having said all of that, the OP mentioned mild street use - I cant see much wrong with a truetrac or similar in that application..

[IMORAL]

True trac. Best thing since sliced bread! Handle bulk power and never give any trouble. Had them behind high HP high torque big blocks and they were the only diff that would last. All the others failed. This was street and drag application.

My 2 cents anyway.

[RallyRed]

Hi..Ive not hear of the one you asked about...
In the last few years have run the following in a 95% track car -
Banjo factory type LSD..no good. Cones are fragile and getting hard to come by. Chinese type cone copies are less robust again.
Harrop Tru trac -pretty good and great in a straight line or open corners. But lift a wheel and it just spins.No clutches or cones to wear out..silent and smooth operation.
Detroit locker - no spin ever..except for maybe 1/2 a second until it locks.Noisey and rough in the lock/ unlock action. Doesnt matter with a helmet on..but can be a little harsh for street use. Wayne has one in his street car..he may chip in.
Summary - tru trac for street.
Detroit for trac.
Just my opinion.
P.S dont forget axles too.

[ozyozyozy]

Thanks racehatch, yes missed a zero
Looked into the yukon ones, cant find much info on people actually using them so hesitant to try.

I have a modena to go in, yet to use it, as engine is also out, alot of TCM cars are using them now.
Like the idea of adjustable ramp angles to tune hiw the LSD locks.

Truetrac was the best of a bad bunch but agree junk for motorsport, have been using one for about 5 years.
Prior to that it was a spool and a detroit locker.

Google wave trac LSD and read there tech articles they compare their diff with a normal truetrac, on paper its a good thing, know of 1 car running one(also been in it) seems to be ok for him.

Stay away from cone type LSD's only good for camp fires

Edited by ozyozyozy, 03 March 2017 - 06:28 PM.

[mandytory]

Thanks for your thoughts guys . Found some feedback on the torque loc on another forum . Some tried them and been happy with it and were buying another one for their other car. Not for competition use but worked well and quietly for Street use .