Jump to content


Photo

Speed Cameras are Revenue Raisers

QLD Police Union

  • Please log in to reply
73 replies to this topic

#1 S pack

S pack

    Scrivet Counter

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,692 posts
  • Name:Dave
  • Location:Luggage Point
  • Car:73 LJ
  • Joined: 25-January 10

Posted 05 February 2018 - 01:08 PM

Queensland Police Union chief Ian Levers admits unmarked and covert speed cameras are pure revenue raisers.

http://www.caradvice...campaign=290118

 



#2 fx48_eh64

fx48_eh64

    Forum Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 188 posts
  • Name:MrFX
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Car:Fx
  • Joined: 05-May 17

Posted 05 February 2018 - 02:47 PM

And this is a surprise to who?  thats right  NO ONE .....LOL



#3 cameron

cameron

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 364 posts
  • Name:Cameron
  • Location:Perth WA
  • Car:LX SS Hatchback
  • Joined: 06-January 16

Posted 05 February 2018 - 02:52 PM

OMG all the dramatic increase in fine revenue and cameras hasn't made an impact on road fatalities. WTF (sarcasm)

 

Who new??

 

Preferred Solution:

We need to double the camera numbers and double the fine penalties to fix this.

 

The solution to all problems in Australia is simple just get more money from tax payers (one way or another) who cares about fixing the hidden real cause.

 

 

Cameron



#4 John Coulman

John Coulman

    Forum Participant

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 4 posts
  • Name:John Coulman
  • Location:Los Angeles
  • Car:LX Hatchback
  • Joined: 19-June 16

Posted 05 February 2018 - 02:53 PM

I have a friend who is a highway patrol officer and he said the Same thing about speed camera's years ago. Off the record of course. When I asked if he had quotas he said no,they let me write as many tickets as I want.

#5 cameron

cameron

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 364 posts
  • Name:Cameron
  • Location:Perth WA
  • Car:LX SS Hatchback
  • Joined: 06-January 16

Posted 05 February 2018 - 03:15 PM

Its human nature. If your out driving and see marked cars driving around you naturally pay more attention to how you are driving. With hidden cameras most times you are not even aware you have gone past one let alone that you have been done for a few klms above the posted limit. Up until December I had not lost one demerit point for over 10yrs yet a camera got me for 5kph over in a 90kph zone. I guess it was a lesson that I shouldn't be such a death threat to other road users and should slow down.

 

Cameron



#6 jd lj

jd lj

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,422 posts
  • Name:James D
  • Location:in the shed
  • Car:LJ SVO
  • Joined: 03-December 10

Posted 05 February 2018 - 06:36 PM

In relation to the above post, speed cameras won't use discretion and take into account your good driving history either. They're very black and white you're over the limit and you're busted, even though we all make mistakes or can lose concentration for a moment,not to mention what it's like if you're driving in an unfamiliar area and don't know the speed limit (there's not always a sign when you need one) add to that trying to find a street or address at the same time and you can easily be a few km's over unintentionally.

#7 S pack

S pack

    Scrivet Counter

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,692 posts
  • Name:Dave
  • Location:Luggage Point
  • Car:73 LJ
  • Joined: 25-January 10

Posted 05 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

Its human nature. If your out driving and see marked cars driving around you naturally pay more attention to how you are driving. With hidden cameras most times you are not even aware you have gone past one let alone that you have been done for a few klms above the posted limit. Up until December I had not lost one demerit point for over 10yrs yet a camera got me for 5kph over in a 90kph zone. I guess it was a lesson that I shouldn't be such a death threat to other road users and should slow down.

 

Cameron

 

I know what you mean. I got pinged early last year for the 1st time in over 20 years by a speed camera for doing 67 in a 60 zone. Wish I'd been doing 72 would have made it at least feel worthwhile.

I was lucky there were no pedestrians walking down the middle of the road or I would have killed them. I hold my head in total and utter shame for being so reckless.
 


Edited by S pack, 05 February 2018 - 06:55 PM.


#8 Tyre biter

Tyre biter

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 976 posts
  • Name:Craig
  • Location:Canberra
  • Car:Should have gone with Palais...
  • Joined: 08-December 10

Posted 05 February 2018 - 08:12 PM

It's the QPS Union who made this comment - not QPS itself therefore has little significance and even less horsepower, and I note it's tied to an agenda about additional police resources (predictably) as opposed to anything else like road safety initiatives - unfortunate really - could have used empirical data to support an approach with a greater good motivation behind it and attempt to wrest some control back from elements of academia whom seemingly have that government's ear...

Cheers, TB



#9 Redslur

Redslur

    Has been Torana owner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,080 posts
  • Name:Gerry
  • Location:NSW
  • Car:VP 5.0L Berlina, VZ CV8 Monaro
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 05 February 2018 - 08:21 PM

We need more red light cameras in my opinion to stop all the dickhead redlight runners.  See it every day on the way to work. This would be beneficial for road safety!



#10 koalasprint

koalasprint

    Forum Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 168 posts
  • Name:Steve
  • Location:Melbourne
  • Car:LX SS Hatch
  • Joined: 30-April 10

Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:06 AM

Let's not single out Queensland. Here in pricktoria it is just as bad. Maybe worse because the speed limits in most urban areas are inappropriate. I have 7 demerit points(4 from speeding) and have been trying very hard not to "speed". Pretty much impossible to stay under 100% of the time. The level and duration of concentration required is actually dangerous.



#11 Max's SS

Max's SS

    Forum Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 227 posts
  • Name:Steve
  • Location:Port Pirie SA
  • Joined: 21-May 06

Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:10 AM

I recently got caught in my Torana  by a camera mounted on the front of a stationary car. The recorded speed was 61 in a 50 zone. Looked at the photo and noticed the road was on a down hill section

I thought the world was suppose to be "playing on a level playing field". Well speed cameras don't.



By the way....it cost me $431. The SA government needs as much money as it can get.



#12 Ice

Ice

    Cool

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,644 posts
  • Name:Gene
  • Location:Galaxy's away from Ipswich
  • Car:77 HZ Sandman Van VF SS Ute
  • Joined: 03-January 07

Posted 06 February 2018 - 09:07 AM

Speed cameras,red light cameras, multinovas yep there keeping the road deaths down check NSW Xmas toll i think it was a record last year
Revenue raising no way really

#13 Rainman

Rainman

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 481 posts
  • Name:Ray
  • Location:South Australia
  • Car:SS Hatch
  • Joined: 14-March 16
Garage View Garage

Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:03 AM

There is no doubt in my opinion this is run by business persons. Decisions made and justified by themselves. Even the rego stickers. Big business, how to make as much money with as little repercussions. The increases for non payment. They should also advise child support. So if I feel the need for speed, I will pick my moment and take my chance. Normally haven driven down the road and on my way back. If I get stung, I was doing the wrong thing so pay the fine. If you don't do the wrong thing then you don't get fined. Truth is there is a greater risk to others and pay the fine or just follow the road rules. But it would be nice if each state had an unused road for people wanting to take a risk with there own lives.



#14 Redslur

Redslur

    Has been Torana owner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,080 posts
  • Name:Gerry
  • Location:NSW
  • Car:VP 5.0L Berlina, VZ CV8 Monaro
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:06 AM

Point to point cameras would be a better way of slowing down traffic and keeping speeders at bay. We all know where they hide the speed cameras here in ACT and they only act as a deterrent up until you pass them and then everyone continues on speeding. Point to point cameras actually make people think about their speed for a longer period of time. 



#15 Steve TPF

Steve TPF

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 768 posts
  • Name:Steve
  • Location:Adelaide... city of... anyone know something good about it?
  • Car:UC hatch
  • Joined: 09-June 09

Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:30 PM

Don't worry folks - before too long they will phase out speed cameras altogether. They will be replaced with "dataloggers" - mandatory for all new cars sold and required to be fitted to all old cars within a couple of years. These handy gadgets will record everything you do and match it to your location. Every six months you will be required to report to a testing station where you will be booked for every infringement. But don't worry - after all, if you never do anything wrong you'll be fine!



#16 Redslur

Redslur

    Has been Torana owner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,080 posts
  • Name:Gerry
  • Location:NSW
  • Car:VP 5.0L Berlina, VZ CV8 Monaro
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 06 February 2018 - 08:11 PM

Probably not far from the truth.



#17 LHSL308

LHSL308

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,310 posts
  • Location:Vic
  • Car:75 LH L32 308
  • Joined: 10-October 11

Posted 06 February 2018 - 08:44 PM

Don't worry folks - before too long they will phase out speed cameras altogether. They will be replaced with "dataloggers" - mandatory for all new cars sold and required to be fitted to all old cars within a couple of years. These handy gadgets will record everything you do and match it to your location. Every six months you will be required to report to a testing station where you will be booked for every infringement. But don't worry - after all, if you never do anything wrong you'll be fine!

 

I can see that being hacked with a virus of some sort so that the data checker can't get in to check it  :D



#18 Steve TPF

Steve TPF

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 768 posts
  • Name:Steve
  • Location:Adelaide... city of... anyone know something good about it?
  • Car:UC hatch
  • Joined: 09-June 09

Posted 07 February 2018 - 05:13 AM

I can see that being hacked with a virus of some sort so that the data checker can't get in to check it  :D

 

 

That would be treated the same way as refusing a breath test - instant fail and maximum penalty. After all, if you have nothing to hide, you won't mind them checking!

 

 Oh, and if your traction control gets activated that will count as a "burnout" because you broke traction...



#19 LHSL308

LHSL308

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,310 posts
  • Location:Vic
  • Car:75 LH L32 308
  • Joined: 10-October 11

Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:15 AM

That would be treated the same way as refusing a breath test - instant fail and maximum penalty. After all, if you have nothing to hide, you won't mind them checking!

 

 Oh, and if your traction control gets activated that will count as a "burnout" because you broke traction...

 

I don't think rules like this will be out in our lifetime.There will have to be discretion with rules like this anyway. Just because you broke traction does not mean you're driving like a hoon, you could be trying to avoid an accident.



#20 StephenSLR

StephenSLR

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,504 posts
  • Name:Stephen
  • Location:Sydney
  • Car:1976 LX SL/R
  • Joined: 12-November 05

Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:40 AM

In relation to the above post, speed cameras won't use discretion and take into account your good driving history either.

 

If you have 10+ years without a driving infringement write to your road authority and explain it was a slip up and they will retract the infringement; they do have a good behaviour policy and many people don't know of this. I'm not sure if it works if your infringement is excessive but I did contact them in the old days when you had to write and lick a stamp and my $160 fine was dismissed. It was back in the days just before hidden speed cameras were outlawed and one happened to get me.

 

Of course they note it down so it'll be another 10 years before you can claim leniency.

 

I agree, it's unfair when there is no personal involvement, cops would've did all the warrant checks, inspect the car, etc. and just let me go for doing a few clicks over.

 

s


Edited by StephenSLR, 07 February 2018 - 08:45 AM.


#21 StephenSLR

StephenSLR

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,504 posts
  • Name:Stephen
  • Location:Sydney
  • Car:1976 LX SL/R
  • Joined: 12-November 05

Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:49 AM

Looked at the photo and noticed the road was on a down hill section

I thought the world was suppose to be "playing on a level playing field".

 

The oldest myth in the book; a member here on the forum was a cop and straightened that one out; uphill, downhill, level road; speeding is still speeding. Whenever someone would pull that line on him, he'd say, if your car can't slow down going down hill I can issue you with a defect notice as well if you want. lol

 

s


Edited by StephenSLR, 07 February 2018 - 08:55 AM.


#22 Rockoz

Rockoz

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,678 posts
  • Name:Rob
  • Location:Sanctuary Point
  • Joined: 21-September 08

Posted 07 February 2018 - 01:12 PM

Im not going to say I never speed.

That would be stupid.

However I can manage to keep my car at the speed limit quite well without having to constantly watch my speedo.

And it doesnt matter what vehicle I drive I can still do it.

Its pretty subconscious and works best with the regular vehicle.

Your senses actually come into play.

The speed at which the road goes by.

The sound the car makes at a particular speed.

The vibrations at a particular speed.

The way I look at it if I get fined wear it. They caught me that time.

There were times that I got away with it. Lots of them. Including where highway patrol has seen me.

There are times that had I been caught I would have been walking for a long time.

I agree that speed cameras dont save lives.

Most of what is done for road safety is next to useless.

But they are usually something that a politician can stand up and say we did something.

The ideas are often as useless as the politician as well.



#23 StephenSLR

StephenSLR

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,504 posts
  • Name:Stephen
  • Location:Sydney
  • Car:1976 LX SL/R
  • Joined: 12-November 05

Posted 07 February 2018 - 01:25 PM

However I can manage to keep my car at the speed limit quite well without having to constantly watch my speedo.

 

Yep and my Nokia has a setting which you dial in how many km's over the speed limit before it warns you with a few beeps, it automatically adjusts the speed limit via GPS. I assume the other phones would have such a feature. Yes I only buy Nokia for the free maps, lol.

 

 

I agree that speed cameras don't save lives.

 

Admittedly I know I would drive faster if there were no cameras. Back in the old days in the middle of night when nobody was around, sneaking red lights was a common practice; I know for sure I don't do that these days. Whether that has saved lives is like the gun debate, the control ships all the good guys into line while the bad guys break the law regardless.

 

s



#24 Rockoz

Rockoz

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,678 posts
  • Name:Rob
  • Location:Sanctuary Point
  • Joined: 21-September 08

Posted 07 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

Stephen there was a rumour going around that the first VE SS would have the antenna tap the rear window around 240kmh.

I checked it out regularly. On a private raod of course. lol



#25 Steve TPF

Steve TPF

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 768 posts
  • Name:Steve
  • Location:Adelaide... city of... anyone know something good about it?
  • Car:UC hatch
  • Joined: 09-June 09

Posted 07 February 2018 - 06:41 PM

I don't think rules like this will be out in our lifetime.There will have to be discretion with rules like this anyway. Just because you broke traction does not mean you're driving like a hoon, you could be trying to avoid an accident.

 

 

 I've got bad news for you: the laws are loosely written and the cops decided "ANY break of traction is a burnout".

 

A while ago someone posted on here about a guy who had his car impounded for three months because he had a LSD and his tyre squeaked while going around a roundabout.






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users