Jump to content


Flare painting


  • Please log in to reply
16 replies to this topic

#1 _Hilta_

_Hilta_
  • Guests

Posted 16 March 2018 - 02:49 PM

Just after some advice, paint has been applied to our papaya hatch and looks excellent, but the flares colour looks lighter when attached the colour of the flare looks lighter than the car, I know it's only the flip of the paint because when you hold the flare at a different angle it matches, my question is what have people done to alleviate this? Or is it just part of flares?

#2 mick_in_oz

mick_in_oz

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 666 posts
  • Name:Mick
  • Location:Western QLD
  • Car:LX Hatchback
  • Joined: 12-June 11

Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:32 PM

Paint flip on a solid colour?????

 

I'm wondering if they mixed enough paint to do the whole job rather than mixing more to do the extras. Did they use the same primer shade on the flares?

 

Is a few possibilities but not a flip, flip happens with how the metallic flake lays down when sprayed.



#3 _Hilta_

_Hilta_
  • Guests

Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:43 PM

Will ask about primer, also not sure about mix the flares still look a bit see through? Anything else to ask?

#4 grumpy xu1

grumpy xu1

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,809 posts
  • Name:Gary
  • Location:Queensland
  • Car:lj xu1
  • Joined: 01-February 10

Posted 16 March 2018 - 07:54 PM

Mick's correct, you can use the same tin of paint on a different day & get a slightly different shade, I've always known the flip terminology with pearls,as they can be a different colour from opposite angles. All the outside should be painted at the same time, it can vary at least 50 % off the time if you don't. I would use the same hi build on all the parts, even though it's a solid colour. Rub them down & re paint if they're transparent and hopefully they come out the same.

#5 Rockoz

Rockoz

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,955 posts
  • Name:Rob
  • Location:Cowra NSW
  • Joined: 21-September 08

Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:46 AM

Are you sure it isnt just the reflected light doing it?

Because the flares are at a different angle, the reflected light can give it a difference in observed colour.

You can notice it a lot on cars with integral plastics.

It can be painted along with the joining panel, but will appear different because of the change of angle.



#6 _livo74_

_livo74_
  • Guests

Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:00 AM

and never more evident in what i refer to as the clown car whenever i see it. cringe every time.

 

390391_85937_5_a7ff7848c327cdcb.jpg



#7 _Hilta_

_Hilta_
  • Guests

Posted 17 March 2018 - 05:10 PM

I'm thinking it is the angle, if you hold the flare around the car the colour appears the same, when the flare is on the car, down low looks right it's more where the flare comes out flat and the car goes vertical, hope that makes sence! Is there anything that can be done? Or they all do it?

#8 _Bomber Watson_

_Bomber Watson_
  • Guests

Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:16 PM

Im gonna Guess Papaya was not available off a colour chart for your painter. 

It was likely a custom mix, and frOck knows its translucency. 

It should have zero flip. Period. in the shade if you hold the flare up to the body panel it attaches to it should match perfectly. 

Anything less you have been #@$^%& over. 



#9 _Hilta_

_Hilta_
  • Guests

Posted 18 March 2018 - 06:39 PM

Don't really understand what that means? How do you mean I've been fkd over??

#10 _Bomber Watson_

_Bomber Watson_
  • Guests

Posted 18 March 2018 - 06:43 PM

I just re read your first post, I fail to see the confusion?

You have received a sub par job. From your explanation it is not correct, and it sounds like the painter does not wish to fix it as he told you the bullshit about Papaya having flip, which it does not. 



#11 _Hilta_

_Hilta_
  • Guests

Posted 18 March 2018 - 07:15 PM

What I'm asking if you look at top of flare there appears to be a slight difference between the guard and flat of the flare, I have messaged the painter and he assures me the mix was from the papaya chart

Attached Files



#12 grumpy xu1

grumpy xu1

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,809 posts
  • Name:Gary
  • Location:Queensland
  • Car:lj xu1
  • Joined: 01-February 10

Posted 18 March 2018 - 07:58 PM

Don't really understand what that means? How do you mean I've been fkd over??


The 2 best ways to check it will be either under a fluro light or in the sun, give those a go & see how it looks mate. If they're thin, he can block them & re shoot them with some colour. Angles could make it look a little different do those things & walk around, pretty simple fix really. But as i said colour can vary if not all done at once, i think i made that mistake twice. I can't see photos, so my advice is non visual like stevie wonder.

#13 myss427

myss427

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,636 posts
  • Location:Canberra
  • Car:427 hatch, CV8 Monaro, Ve SSV ute. Was part owner A9X sedan until he sold it without telling me!
  • Joined: 17-November 05
Garage View Garage

Posted 19 March 2018 - 09:29 AM

Its a straight colour it should not vary with angle, looks like a lighter shade, incorrect mix. If it had a pearl or 3 part colour system to it I could understand the variation. The only thing to me that jumps out is. he might not have put enough coats on and is getting a little show through.



#14 StephenSLR

StephenSLR

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,707 posts
  • Name:Stephen
  • Location:Sydney
  • Car:1976 LX SL/R
  • Joined: 12-November 05

Posted 19 March 2018 - 11:08 AM

Mick's correct, you can use the same tin of paint on a different day & get a slightly different shade

 

One painter told me with metallics, the metallic particles sink to the bottom of the mix and the stuff sitting around on the bench can give you a different shade in the time it takes to empty the first lot from the gun.

 

s



#15 grumpy xu1

grumpy xu1

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,809 posts
  • Name:Gary
  • Location:Queensland
  • Car:lj xu1
  • Joined: 01-February 10

Posted 19 March 2018 - 06:51 PM

One painter told me with metallics, the metallic particles sink to the bottom of the mix and the stuff sitting around on the bench can give you a different shade in the time it takes to empty the first lot from the gun.
 
s


Every painter i have known mixes the paint every time between pots mate. There's a lot of techniques used to lay out the metalic particles equally, i use the old fashioned way of doing to avoid the poor particle layout. It's not worth taking the chance. A good painter knows what he's doing, but anyone can make a mistake.

#16 StephenSLR

StephenSLR

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,707 posts
  • Name:Stephen
  • Location:Sydney
  • Car:1976 LX SL/R
  • Joined: 12-November 05

Posted 19 March 2018 - 07:00 PM

Every painter i have known mixes the paint every time between pots mate.

 

I believe that's what he was saying; it requires mixing even after it's been sitting on the bench a short time.

 

s



#17 grumpy xu1

grumpy xu1

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,809 posts
  • Name:Gary
  • Location:Queensland
  • Car:lj xu1
  • Joined: 01-February 10

Posted 19 March 2018 - 08:12 PM

I believe that's what he was saying; it requires mixing even after it's been sitting on the bench a short time.
 
s


Yeah mate, i suppose that's obvious to me being around it, i would have thought that you would notice & just stir it, but I've been around paint ect for a long time. Pearls are much worse for that.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users