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#1 livo74

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 11:41 AM

As we have lost so much info due to photobucket fiasco, can people please feel free to add images and info of how they did it, 

USING THIS SITE'S IMAGE UPLOADER. (max 2 images per post, i think??)

 

This way images will be permanently here for future reference for those attempting the process themselves.

 

the more photos and thoughts the better, and all in one thread will save headaches for those searching later on

 

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Note: obviously, there will be diverse/better methods and opinions, and ALL should be made known here please so that restorers themselves can make fully informed decisions.

cheers!

 

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So lets start with examples by an obviously professional fabricator and panel beater ;), and go from there

(hotwires 225/60/14's. lx stub axles)

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 11:49 AM

how to upload images..

 

click "more reply options"

click "choose file"

click "attach this file"

 

repeat for a second image

 

click "add reply"

 

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 11:52 AM

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 11:56 AM

welded by God.

Schmick! hahaha

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 12:02 PM

tyres hitting guards, let alone the flares issue

 

something i wish had known before mounting flares...
or
had waited till had bought tyres/tested wheel size.
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anyways, whether it was just MY flare kit, or too large tyres, OR flare kit had warped??sucked in on itself after years of being unmounted..
i wish i had done this
 
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and not saying push towards rear AND front.. enough to warp flare
..but just a cm either end. will be glad you did.
(numerous threads indicate is not just me that had issues)
 

 



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Posted 12 June 2018 - 12:05 PM

borrowed info (of how i would choose to do if had time machine)

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"Whenever I've done them I try to cut away as much material as the flare will cover, especially at the front lower corner where the flare meets the spoiler...
 
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With the firewall, it depends how radical you want (or need) to go, most people just hammer the flange flat so the tyre may still hit but doesn't get cut.
 
I went searching back through Heath's thread for the 'proper' way to do it but a lot of his earlier photos are gone so not much help any more.  :( "

 



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Posted 12 June 2018 - 12:23 PM

borrowed from someone else.
(if i remember rightly, was very thankful to be shown this after i had done mine. 
um....)
 
an extremely professional looking job.
only change i would note as a possibility.. is to go a cm or 2 higher, so WONT have wheel rub ever (??)
 
 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 12 June 2018 - 12:26 PM

not sure if he used a heatgun or blow torch to heat up the metal to bend so neatly, but either way... beautiful.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:02 AM

cut height 

(2cm below flare mounting bolts)

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outer "skin" cut highlighted obviously.

this "inner" skin you cut far lower, as shown in pic

so as to leave metal to fold outwards to meet the "outer" skin", that's been cut to your preferred new height. 


Edited by livo74, 22 June 2018 - 10:07 AM.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:30 AM

borrowed handy hints

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"With the front guards I would cut away pretty much everything that's covered by the flare / spoiler, basically leave just enough material to bolt the flare to.
 
and a pic showing why so much of guard is to be cut away
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and..
 
"If you're worried about keeping some strength in the guards you can weld a length of 1/8" steel rod or similar around the cut edge of the wheel arch, which will help from cutting the tyres too."
 
here a pic showing what is being referred to, on the FRONT guard for strenghtening
and showing how it is done
(although, obviously on a hatchback.. which can do with a bit of stiffening COMPARED with a sedan, which doesn't really need it)
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Edited by livo74, 22 June 2018 - 10:39 AM.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:35 AM

more pics of the beautifuly done hatch... and showing reinforcement rod finished, 

that leaves no sharp edges, nice!

 

 

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:50 AM

cutting wheel arches and fitting flares torana

 

Cutting guards on LX hatchback

 

fitting of the front flares torana lh lx



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:04 AM

various pics showing why i mentioned..  feel free to "push" front flare backwards AND forwards A CM at either end

 

if you already have chosen wheels when mounting so as to check clearance.. it is obviously preferable 

 

but, doing so also allows for any wheel/tyre also changes later on.

 

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last pis shows drastic (and difficult) emergency measures being taken to counteract the grief

 



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:33 AM

a vid showing the fun to be had

 



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:31 PM

No matter how high you cut them, unless you add longer bump stops like A9X's you can still rub the guards, unless you have way thick springs and an uncomfortable ride?



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:23 PM

Can still go higher on the rears than thatblue one too. You need to mod the inner vertical support as well then but it is needdd for big diameter wheels.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:06 PM

I wish I had more detailed / bigger / better pics of this...

 

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...obviously a race car but those rear wheel arches are HUGE, they would definitely require custom flares!



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:44 PM

Havnt seen pics of fitting flares before. That was really sad       Rainman



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 09:57 AM

"custom flares"

 Crikey! though if require only the "lengthening" of the lower sections an inch or two... maybe could do, as have had people kindly post how it is done.

..but if required whole new flare.... aargh!! cannot even imagine the difficulty of that job. outsourcing it is!






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