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Posted 06 July 2018 - 03:38 PM



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 06:51 AM

Sorry about this here is the photos I took Attached File  IMG_0319.JPG   751.35K   18 downloadsAttached File  IMG_0310.JPG   479.63K   15 downloadsAttached File  IMG_0316.JPG   410.46K   16 downloadsa47945bdb4f23803529742d09d7f20a5.jpg7ebfba0935162e18420c6b79d0db3eaa.jpg


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 06:56 AM

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 08:47 AM

Picking it up tomorrow night to take home hopefully my shed should be done d1d13ba01297377373b9bedb24d12070.jpgjust waiting for the tin to turn up


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:53 AM

Congrats on the hatch find! (And the shed)

 

Nothing there that can't be fixed but hopefully it came with a whole heap more parts, otherwise the parts would cost more than the car if you had to buy it all.



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 01:06 PM

yeah came with a nine inch diff and a coupe of ute loads of parts, a full set of flares ,panels, trim ,full dash parts , headlining didnt

want motor or gearbox have a ls1and 6 speed gearbox , drop tank need to organise wheels how wide legally can i fit diff width is 1440 mm wide engineer said i can go 25mm over track widthso can i use a9x wheel track with so what size i need to order anyone can help  



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 06:08 PM

Yeah you may want to get your engineer to brush up on the NCOP, with a replacement axle (such as a ford 9 inch) the Torana specs no longer apply.

 

As per Page 44/LS80 of NCOP11 Section LS Suspension and Steering V2.1 15Nov2015 (available for download here):

 

NCOP11_Secton_LS_Tyres_Rims_Suspension_S

 

Specifically the "based on the specifications of the axle components used" part. You need to go off the specs for the car the diff came out of, and who's to say what that was so take your pick...

 

The last Ford Fairlane/LTD/Marquis made in Australia to have a 9" diff was the ZH (the last model before they went to the square XD look).
All ZH Marquises built after January 1979 had Borg-Warner differentials instead of the Ford 9-inch.

ZA/ZB Rear Track = 58.0" (1473mm) (source: https://www.uniqueca..._specifications)
XW/XY & ZC/ZD Rear Track = 58.5" (1486mm) (source: https://www.uniqueca..._specifications)
XA/XB/XC & ZF/ZG/ZH Rear Track = 60.0" (1524mm) (source: https://www.uniqueca..._specifications)
The 1984/85 F100 all had a rear track = 64.4" (1636mm)

 

All minus the amount the diff was shortened of course.

 

BTW, I don't expect an engineer would accept those website specs, they will likely have a list of their own issued by your DOT, so you'll have to find out what their specs are first.

 

EDIT: Note that the above are Track measurements not diff width measurements, I don't have any notes on standard ford diff widths but it wouldn't be hard to work out if we had the rim offsets for each of the above?


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 06:16 PM

Thanks bigfella 237 just staring on paperwork for approval from Queensland department of Transport I am heading to townsville
In two weeks I will go and see him and fill the missing parts of paperwork thanks

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:22 PM

Full floating rear end will give you 25mm per side, or used to in qld.

 

What about a 9" conversion with Banjo tubes and wheel bearings, L34 spec plus 12mm??? It is after all the original fitted part?

 

Just a couple of passing thoughts for some homework... 



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Posted 08 July 2018 - 12:35 AM

So what is the definition of "axle"? Is it the centre pumpkin, or the tubes, or the drive axles themselves, or the flange & bearing assemblies?

 

What about a MacDonald Bros sheet metal housing with all Strange Engineering internals, who's the manufacturer then? It could only be MB or Strange and neither have track measurements to reference.

 

The NCOP misses the point completely, there is way more to consider than just the size of the wheels.

 

The relationship between the front & rear track has implications on braking and handling, specifically whether the vehicle tends toward over-steer or under-steer, but it's also about maintaining the distribution of weight across the inner & outer wheel bearings (or drive axle & bearing) on each wheel, and the load on wheel studs & other suspension components (the wider the offset, the more leverage weight has), and then any steering axle has the scrub radius to consider as well.

 

It's silly just to specify a blanket value of 25mm per axle without considering all the other factors. This is where the engineer earns his or her money, and any good engineer will only use the NCOP as a guideline (notice how often the word "recommended" is used).


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 07:23 PM

Thanks for everyone I Will ask my engineer Christian Rudolph in Townsville on Friday about what size wheels I can run update on shedcaa3d118f55eaaf61f42a4f4cb6fef03.jpg finally have movement
On the torana have started rust repairs b24e895ee5d51b824e216d3a867d56fb.jpgeea702e9c0bf342edbe69e234852850c.jpg
Ordered a couple of more rust repair parts on the hatchback seal edge 3f9132b4df14f3e78b811734341c3b94.jpg421de886991a9d260a723826df9648d6.jpg354abb71b60f2c838d7746892524071d.jpg5b39b10856e6d076ba1dc3da29e9d554.jpg


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 07:27 PM

Don’t know how that happened double post sorry
Just a question how do we change the taillight buckets mine have rust in them have ordered a pair from Grant c3853641f3d851172e586c8119a4d4bb.jpg2615afc77a618a7cff839142580b9ca2.jpg


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 09:50 PM

Is that an early LH nosecone on the grey car in the background?



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Posted 26 July 2018 - 06:20 PM

Update
Finally getting some work on my shed 23fd5c6d38acd229d841ae22c2862d1e.jpg
Okay now to the gritty part how do we fix this4074b8acb5abe70dbe7cef5805779b6d.jpg
Starting to cut out the rust found more have got the channel part as well the outer part
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Posted 26 July 2018 - 06:24 PM

Not sure about nose cone Shiny005 it is one of about 4 I have plus a original nos nosecone been collecting for a while

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:50 PM

That one is the later version. the early ones had separate holes for the bumper bracket and indicator. Cheers anyway. :)



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Posted 26 July 2018 - 09:03 PM

Thanks for that I will check out the other ones


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Posted 04 March 2019 - 09:36 PM

Sorry people for not updating been busy will put up new photos in the next couple of days first things FINALLY my shed builder finished the shed and I have the hoist put in and power connected 1a34b08540f91fdbbef946d2b390740b.jpg
Went to Summernats again f36fad045d1772cda94c6a6e120881f7.jpga4da8cd48dc2cc185796dea37d72c64f.jpg
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Posted 04 March 2019 - 09:40 PM

Will post photo of inside the shed 57a8f657c919f404d41119870ffabb43.jpg
At present mocking up motor and gearbox front spoiler and flares to be put on a little worried about cutting the back guards 160bc030b78b8581b6aff71bf35e1a75.jpga9f98e87fe0e61282579e9c864632625.jpg


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Posted 04 March 2019 - 09:47 PM

Been busy buying parts cdcc71f186d6b1ba99726a0881f02fc7.jpg
Couldn’t help myself I intend to keep her once I have finished


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