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#1 S pack

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 08:26 PM

Does anyone have an LX Torana Parts catalogue that would be kind enough to post up a pic or a scan of the parts info contained in Group 3.017  Gauge - Fuel Tank Unit.

 

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:29 PM

Doesn't seem to be one?



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:45 PM

Doesn't seem to be one?

My mistake. Transposition error. Should read  Group 3.107



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 01:23 AM

Yep I realised that, but there still doesn't seem to be an illustration for the sender in either the LH or LX catalogs?

 

There's only two distinct part numbers anyway, one for an 8 cylinder automatic with A/C (9934639), and another one for everything else (9932281).

 

Although the supplement seems to indicate certain versions are only "Used with Sealed Beam Units" ?? (I believe it's mislabeled and should be pre/post ADR27A)


Edited by Bigfella237, 03 January 2019 - 01:23 AM.


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:01 AM

Hi Andrew

 

I'm not after illustrations, I am simply wanting to see the actual descriptions and part numbers GMH had printed in the parts cat.

Would you be kind enough to take pics or scans of Group 3.107 in the parts catalogue and the supplement and post them up?

 

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:27 AM

No worries Dave, here are the relevant pages from the LH & LX Parts Manuals plus the page from the LX Parts Supplement (click on the images for a larger view)...

 

LH-Parts-Manual-Group-3-107.jpg

 

LX-Parts-Manual-Group-3-107.jpg

 

LX-Supplement-Group-3-107.jpg

 

As I said, there doesn't seem to be an illustration of the fuel sender, well not in the preceding pages anyway.

 

I have two different copies of the LX Parts Manual and both are missing entire sections (mainly from group 4, and all of groups 7 & 8) plus the odd page has been left out, which makes it a PITA sometimes, but I checked all the pages numbers and there aren't any missing from that section so I dunno what there's no picture?



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:41 AM

Thanks Andrew, I'm not in need of any illustrations so don't worry about that.

Yes I think you are right, they stuffed up with the reference to sealed beams. lol

 

Something else you may be able to look up for me is the vapour return pipe from the vapour switch in the fuel pipe to the carby to the fuel tank sender unit for 8 cyl auto with Air.

It should be annotated 93) or 96)

 

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:58 AM

Hopefully everything you need is below...

 

LX-Parts-Manual-Vapour-Return-Pipes-01.j

 

LX-Parts-Manual-Vapour-Return-Pipes-02.j

 

LX-Parts-Manual-Group-3-120.jpg

 

And the Supplement pages...

 

LX-Supplement-Group-3-107.jpg

 

LX-Supplement-Group-3-120.jpg



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:16 AM

Thanks again Andrew,

 

Page 30 of the LX catalogue amendment is the winner. Tells me what I need to know.

 

Cheers

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:37 AM

No problem.

 

It absolutely amazes me what a difference ADR 27A made to our cars parts-wise. Even to things you wouldn't think would be affected like fan blades, shrouds & spacers, v-belts, heater hoses, etc.

 

Must have been a real PITA for manufacturers (not to mention parts interpreters)!

 

P.S. I suppose I should really dig up the parts catalog thread and ask there but... if anyone has an electronic copy of the LX parts manual with all the sections mine seems to be missing please let me know!



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:06 AM

I reckon we need a better version of the electronic LX parts catalog that. The electronic copy that I have is probably the same. Poor quality. 



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:24 AM

I reckon we need a better version of the electronic LX parts catalog that. The electronic copy that I have is probably the same. Poor quality. 

Hey Brad, does your LX Catalogue incorporate the ADR 27A amendments?

 

Cheers

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Edit: Anyone have the same catalogue info as Andrew has posted but this time for HX Holden?


Edited by S pack, 03 January 2019 - 08:26 AM.


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:30 AM

Id say mine is the same version that Andrew is using. I can understand the fear some may have of putting a big document like that through a scanner, but its for the greater good. That LH Workshop Manual that I sacrificed will come in handy for others. 

 

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:52 AM

Hey Brad, does your LX Catalogue incorporate the ADR 27A amendments?

 

Cheers

Dave.

 

Edit: Anyone have the same catalogue info as Andrew has posted but this time for HX Holden?

 

I have the HX book on my desk

I'll have a look tonight if someone else doesn't get there first

 

And as for parts interpreters figuring things out.... easy.... customers always tell us... "they are all the same"



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:01 AM

That would be phantasmagorical Neil.

Does your HX Catalogue incorporate the ADR 27A amendments?

 

Agree Neil, the customer is always right lol, and you have to interpret all the BS.

 

 

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:04 PM

Yes it does show with and without ADR27A in the carb/fuel piping

Let me know what you need to see and I'll take the book to work and scan some pages

Taking pics and trying to post them up is rubbish



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:53 PM

That would be phantasmagorical

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 10:02 PM

Yes it does show with and without ADR27A in the carb/fuel piping

Let me know what you need to see and I'll take the book to work and scan some pages

Taking pics and trying to post them up is rubbish

Hey Neil

 

The same as what Andrew posted, Group 3.107 through to Group 3.201 I'm thinking should do the trick.

 

Thanks,

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 10:05 PM

Got it wrong...………….was Sally :fool:



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 10:27 PM

:wtf: :dohdoh: :lol:



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Posted 05 January 2019 - 12:32 PM

Interesting the supplement list the different sender only for auto 8cyl with aircon as my manual 308 with aircon has the fuel return line and the sender with the extra nipple for the return line



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Posted 05 January 2019 - 02:26 PM

Interesting the supplement list the different sender only for auto 8cyl with aircon as my manual 308 with aircon has the fuel return line and the sender with the extra nipple for the return line

The different sender unit appears to be only for 8cyl with Auto, Air and ADR 27A.

 

Your A/C was dealer fitted?



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Posted 05 January 2019 - 04:15 PM

Yes the book only mentions auto but that’s what I’m saying mine is factory integrated air and a manual and is ADR 27A and has the different sender unit . The only difference is it has a nipple on it for a fuel return line , the return line connects to the metal fuel filter in front of carby , it’s so the fuel circulates back to the tank to cool to avoid vapour lock.

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 04:26 PM

Now that is very interesting then Brett with yours being 8cyl, manual, ADR 27A compliant and factory A/C.

 

HQ Holdens also had a vapour separator in the fuel line to the carby and a vapour return pipe to the sender unit on the 308 & 350 V8's with A/C and Auto if memory serves me correctly.

It seems that this set up was not required on cars compliant with ADR 27 (LH & early LX Torana) and possibly late 73 & 74 HQ + HJ & early HX.


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Posted 05 January 2019 - 05:35 PM

I also believe the 5L auto LX with air got an electric fan in front of the condenser but there was never any sign of a fan being fitted to mine as far as I can tell . But most definitely I had the fuel return line although when I got the car in the 80s it had a Holley and the original fuel line from pump to carby was gone as was the metal filter so the return line was just sitting there with the end plugged up




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