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#1 mugginz

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:22 PM

I'm guessing there's no non destructive way to get the rubber boot over the dampener but if it's possible without hacking at the boot I'd love to know.

 

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 08:35 PM

Heat the rubber boot a little. They do stretch a bit. Add a bit of rubber grease and go gently at it...

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:04 PM

I think I've got some rubber grease somewhere.  I'll give it a go... but... a new and disappointing development has arisen.

 

The UC front end that has been installed into the car has the engine mounts out of alignment.  Basically the engine would be rotated counter clockwise if I leave them where they are.  From the looks of things it's come from the factory the way it is.  Spacing looks correct between the mounts and the welds look factory to me, just not where they should be  I'll make a jig off the original k-frame, cut the mounts off the UC k-frame, bolt them to the jig and then weld them back in straight.  :mellow: 

 

Nothing on this car is easy :P



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Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:39 PM

Not an early UC crossmember to suit the OPEL engine is it?



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Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:43 PM

Na, came with 6 cylinder mounts.

 

I'll take a pic tomorrow and post it up.

 

The k-frames been in the car for a couple of years.  I strung a piece of tape across the mounts to take some measurements to see where the shifter was going to sit relative to the console and that's when I noticed the tape wasn't parallel to the ground.



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Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:55 PM

Dishwashing liquid works a treat ,be careful not to split the bastard where that seem is ,been there and done it.

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:57 PM

Yeh, there's a fair bit of difference between the ID of the boot and the OD of the dampener so I can see it'd be pretty easy to split.

 

Hopefully I wont have to buy another boot after I try the loob



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 12:08 AM

I have faced this problem since I was a young lad. I cant keep a girlfriend due to this very issue. Please advise if positive result lol.



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:48 AM

I think I've got some rubber grease somewhere.  I'll give it a go... but... a new and disappointing development has arisen.
 
The UC front end that has been installed into the car has the engine mounts out of alignment.  Basically the engine would be rotated counter clockwise if I leave them where they are.  From the looks of things it's come from the factory the way it is.  Spacing looks correct between the mounts and the welds look factory to me, just not where they should be  I'll make a jig off the original k-frame, cut the mounts off the UC k-frame, bolt them to the jig and then weld them back in straight.  :mellow: 
 
Nothing on this car is easy :P


Would be easier to slot the mounts? You haven’t ended up with an odd set of mounts?

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:55 AM

The mounts are too far out of wack for slotting to work unfortunately

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:34 AM

On the boot issue I vaguely remember looking into this with my ute but decided against a new one. I thought I read at the time that the shifter was actually in two parts and that's how the boot was put on originally.  Not that I would want to try and take it apart, or am I dreaming? Cheers Ron



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:42 AM

The shifter feels pretty solid so if it's in two pieces then they did a good job with it. It doesn't feel like it would want to come apart.

I gave it a bit of a twist to see if I could move the dampener and it felt like if I wanted to use enough force to move it I'd be breaking something

Edited by mugginz, 18 January 2019 - 08:43 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2019 - 03:32 PM

Did mine by dunking the boot in hot water for about a minute then sprayed both with WD40- no problems.



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

Sweet, sounds like a plan

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:23 PM

So this is what I noticed once the tape was in place

 

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So I dragged out the old k-frame, gave it a bit of a clean around the engine mount area and then made a negative jig thingy

 

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Now to cut off the mounts and re-install



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:25 PM

I sense some project binky going on here!


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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:26 PM

Love that show

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 09:42 PM

The shifter mechanism and stick (which includes the damper/sleeve) are two parts.
The stick can also be removed from the sleeve so you can cut and shorten if you you feel that way inclined.
It takes some persuading on both counts.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:18 PM

So Holden's off the hook for the engine mount debarkle.  While removing the mounts I found some signs that this was an Opel front end and some clueless moron has installed the new ones in the wrong place.  I must say they did quite a good job of replicating the look of the factory welds (not exactly a good thing unless you're trying to hide your tracks)






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