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#1 Indy Orange

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:08 PM

Hi all my car is a 3rd month 1971 ,I've just had a squiz at the gearbox and its dated 10th month 70.Would this have been sitting on the shelf for 5 months or would it have had a gearbox change ? Ta Paul.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 01:22 AM

Will check the date on mine tomorrow also a 3/71 build.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:43 PM

were the Opel boxes made in Germany or Europe some where?

.would take a while to get to Holden plant



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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:51 PM

I've heard the Phillipines but I can't confirm that.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 07:28 PM

Torque Master came from there, used  behind Starfire motor

was called Phillipino box I thought in the day



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Posted 29 January 2019 - 07:52 PM

Torque Master came from there, used  behind Starfire motor

was called Phillipino box I thought in the day

MC6 Torque Master 4spd was also used behind the Opel 1900 in the LH & LX Torana as well as the XW1 Philippines LJ Torana with 1900 Opel engine and the XV9 Korean LJ Chevrolet 1700 (Torana) with the 1700 Opel engine.

 

My brother was told by a transmission repairer many many years ago the Opel 4spd used in the LC Torana was made in Brazil, however that appears to be BS.



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Posted 29 January 2019 - 08:12 PM

Yeah I'm still not all that clear on where they were manufactured.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 09:32 PM

Borg Warner 5 speed behind VH 173 and XE 200 also called Phillipino 5 Spd. Same box as starfire I believe.


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 10:26 PM

Borg Warner 5 speed behind VH 173 and XE 200 also called Phillipino 5 Spd. Same box as starfire I believe.
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I don't think so as far as Phillipino? Never heard them called that.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 10:45 PM

Agree Rob, the MC6 is a GM box manufactured in the Philippines, the M76 is a Borg Warner box manufactured wherever, but not the Philippines.

I guess some people nicknamed them a Philipino gearbox based on the M76 being no stronger than the MC6.


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 10:47 PM

My Opel is a 10/70 as well.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 11:08 PM

Thanks for that Dave ,I have the right one then .

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:05 AM

No problems.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 12:29 PM

In 1983 I purchased brand new from Mario (god rest him) at Southern Engine and Gearbox Specialists a Borg Warner 5 speed trans as fitted to 173cui VH Commodore, and installed behind the 202 in my HX van. I had to convert to cable clutch, which was a dumb idea, and shorten the tail shaft, new yoke etc.

The mechanical engineer at work, in charge of the light vehicle fleet, mainly consisting of 173 VH manual wagons at that time referred to the transmission as the Phillipino five speed. He had a low opinion of the torque capabilities of the box, which soon proved to be correct as I had nothing but trouble with the thing. Hence GMH not using these behind the 202 blue in the VH, although Fxxd did use them behind their 3.3 litre in the XE, as well as Bitsushiti in the 2.6 Smegma.

At the time it seemed like a good way to go, being a virtual bolt up, apart from the clutch cable. Think I paid $1300 for the box which was a lot at the time.

Sorry for the hijack but I’m pretty sure that Phillipino 5 speed was the name generally given to these in the days when they were first hitting the roads of Australia.


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