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#1 Baronvonrort

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 08:45 AM

Had the dash on my 2008 Lancer VRX light up with ABS and ASC fault along with check engine light this morning. Mitsubishi want $180 to plug in scanner to tell me what's wrong local mechanic wants $90.

 

Thinking about getting a OBD scanner many are reasonably priced on Amazon.

 

Does anyone here have any suggestions on good brands to consider?

 

 



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Posted 29 November 2019 - 08:58 AM

I generally have no use for such things

As my modern cars...Maxima and VX are the only ones I'd need it for... and haven't ever needed one

 

Yet...I still bought a Kincrome one K8410 last year

Seems I have a problem and buy tools and stuff to go in my shed I'll probably never use

 

Having said that... lent it to a workmate last week

Cleared the codes on his 04 Magna he was selling... apparently worked a treat

 

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:38 AM

You have the same problem as me Datto.

I am in pain most nights before managing sleep.

I often search ebay, Wish and all sorts of other places and buy stuff, mostly tools, that catch my eye.

I paid around 500 bucks for a bluetooth OBD scanner. Was the one recommended by PCMhacker.

Havent used it yet either.

Waiting until I am ready to fire up my LS1 powered project. Could be a while before that happens.

 

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:19 AM

Had the dash on my 2008 Lancer VRX light up with ABS and ASC fault along with check engine light this morning. Mitsubishi want $180 to plug in scanner to tell me what's wrong local mechanic wants $90.
 
Thinking about getting a OBD scanner many are reasonably priced on Amazon.
 
Does anyone here have any suggestions on good brands to consider?


I would probably get your mechanic, to check it, in this instance, might possibly be the abs module at a guess, I've done clubsport 1's. Common in the gm stuff with some age, or klms.

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:50 AM

I have an app on my phone :)

No idea if it works . Wouldn't clear ABS fault on my VZ but disconnecting the battery worked. :)

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:07 AM

I often search ebay, Wish and all sorts of other places and buy stuff, mostly tools, that catch my eye.

 

 

Rob

Is that Wish site for real Rob? My young bloke showed it to me the other day and the prices on some things were so cheap I told him it must be a scam.



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Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:10 AM

Fault code C2116 is very common for Lancer ABS modules.

 

It means the ABS pump motor voltage is low or out of range.

 

The module &/or pump will need repair.

 

Phone me on (02) 9644 2888 & I will give you a rundown.

 

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:18 AM

I would probably get your mechanic, to check it, in this instance, might possibly be the abs module at a guess, I've done clubsport 1's. Common in the gm stuff with some age, or klms.

 

In 1993 i bought my first laptop computer a 386 to program a Haltech ECU in my UC hatch. The price on that dropped a couple of hundred a few weeks later when Pentiums came out. I didn't have much interest in owning a computer before that.

 

The ABS-ASC problem could be something simple like a dirty wheel speed sensor from the storm that hit Sydney the other day scanning would tell me which wheel, the check engine light could be something simple like evaporative emissions fault because the missus put fuel in it the day before and may not have put fuel cap on properly.

 

It's inevitable i will get a scanner it makes life easier and cheaper in the long run it just comes down to how much will i spend and what features i would like which i am currently researching. A scanner can also do things like use the ABS to pump the brakes when bleeding system even reprogram key fobs which my neighbor had to pay $350 for last week when she lost her keys.

 

This would be around the top end of what i will spend- https://www.autoline...rice&order=DESC

 

Or maybe something cheaper like this- https://www.autoline...rice&order=DESC



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Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:27 AM

Fault code C2116 is very common for Lancer ABS modules.

 

It means the ABS pump motor voltage is low or out of range.

 

The module &/or pump will need repair.

 

Phone me on (02) 9644 2888 & I will give you a rundown.

 

Dr Terry

 

I am hoping it's not that i will call later.



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Posted 29 November 2019 - 01:54 PM

Got a cable off eBay for $20. Plugged in to old HP Tecra and down loaded free program for my EJ20 Scooby hatch. Error code blah blah, no signal from knock sensor. Mice had eaten the coax cable. Patched up and all good.

Some good data you can see, like intake temp and other stuff I've forgotten. Pay a few dollars and you can play with tune I seem to recall.

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 08:18 PM

Some thoughts from someone who played with that a bit.

Just coz you have an OBD scan tool doesnt mean you can read all codes, the aftermarket cheapies primarily read emissions related codes.
some cars will allow you to read more codes from other modules, some will only allow reading of some engine codes only, usually the quality of the scan tool has an affect on.
Now once you get the codes out of it its dissecting or Understanding the code, what it says and what the problem is can be 2 very different things. If throwing more than 1 code, some of them could be a knock on affect, eg i have had 02 sensor codes and it was a fuel pump problem(this is not a possibility with all cars)
manufacturer manuals are good for finding out the reason for throwing the dtc, sensor values, driving conditions, unfortunately this info can be hard to come by if you dont know someone.
And yes you can clear the code with a scan tool but your deleting information a mechanic may need to diagnose the problem, so dont clear if your taking it to the car to be diagnosed.

Bit of background i fo to help.

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:13 PM

+ Kincrome seemed to work ok for me clearing a code and code not returning.

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:31 PM

The Kinchrome K8410 is $79 about $10 cheaper than paying local guy and less than half of what Mitsubishi want to retrieve codes, supports 2006 onwards Lancer so far it looks like the cheapest option.

 

I have downloaded workshop manual with all codes listed still undecided on which scanner doing more research.



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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:36 AM

Is that Wish site for real Rob? My young bloke showed it to me the other day and the prices on some things were so cheap I told him it must be a scam.

 

Yeah Laurie, it is real. Some of the stuff is pretty crappy, but other stuff is top notch.

Ive bought some spray guns very cheaply, including a Devilbiss gun for under 200 bucks.

When you look at it though, factor in shipping costs. If you buy more than one, shipping is still the same. No discount for bulk.

But the maximum shipping i have had is about 21 bucks.

The stuff sometimes comes in a week, other times it can be 3 or 4 weeks.

 

If there has been a stuff up, they are quick to refund you. But not back in cash, but dollars credit on the site.

I had a stuff up with someone hacking my account. They let me know quickly. The hack didnt actually cost me anything, but I got a couple hundred bucks creditted to my account.

 

You need to be careful though when you buy, Sometimes what you are buying isnt the complete item pictured. It may be just a part of it.

But if you read the description and specifications part, you work out what it is. Their translations are sometimes not the greatest.

 

I reckon over the last 2 years I have spent about 5k easily buying bits and pieces.

Never really any problem.

 

Cheers



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Posted 30 November 2019 - 07:34 PM

You can have the best scan tools available, but you still need to know how to interperate the information to make a correct assesment of the fault. There is a saying in the trade, it will only cost you $40 to put the scan tool on you car, but it might cost $140 for me to adjust the screw. Its knowing which screw to adjust that costs the money.

 

Scan tools rarely come up with a flashing light with the works THE POBLEM IS THE NUMER 4 FUSE ON THE RIGHT. If that was the case any one could fix it blind folded, even the wife.



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Posted 30 November 2019 - 07:44 PM

neil has a maxima lol



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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:50 PM

neil has a maxima lol

 

Sure do

Once of the nicest cars I've owned

Bought it for my daughter to use when we got rid of her VZ commy

Has 322k kms on it and still goes great

She's put about 110k kms on it in the last 4 yrs I've owned it

 

Think I've driven it about 6 times... lol



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Posted 30 November 2019 - 10:35 PM

Sure do

Once of the nicest cars I've owned

Bought it for my daughter to use when we got rid of her VZ commy

Has 322k kms on it and still goes great

She's put about 110k kms on it in the last 4 yrs I've owned it

 

Think I've driven it about 6 times... lol

I know the pain

 

i downgraded from a VX R8 to a VS Series 3 Statesman



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Posted 30 November 2019 - 11:53 PM

The Maxima was a huge upgrade over the VZ






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