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[liswar2]

Today's Sunday times article

Good news

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[meanmachine72]

how much is it at present?..cheap rego over there anyway

[Shiney005]

Annual inspections? Is that a thing anywhere else?  And why is it cheaper to rego an SLR than an FJ?

[SLR576]

Sounds great but a Annual inspection is not ideal with the 10in rims and sitting on its hole!! So I looks like I be sticking to the full price rego
We here in WA don’t have annual inspection just the yellow sticker system and tow away for impound if you are playing up!!
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[Shiney005]

I may have asked you before Steve, but are you related to the Owen Ogilvie who raced the L34 at Wanneroo?

 

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[SLR576]

I may have asked you before Steve, but are you related to the Owen Ogilvie who raced the L34 at Wanneroo?

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no I don’t believe so as I a QLD lad
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[S pack]

"Vehicle use being limited to attending club shows and events".  What about 30,60 or 90 days log booked unlimited use? No mention of that. Just like QLD special interest rego scheme, extremely restrictive and archaic. 

[Statler]

"Vehicle use being limited to attending club shows and events".  What about 30,60 or 90 days log booked unlimited use? No mention of that. Just like QLD special interest rego scheme, extremely restrictive and archaic. 

I don't find the Qld scheme restrictive at all. 

We can travel (for testing/tuning ) 15 km in any direction at any time & as often as we want . I'm yet to see this policed.

If we want to travel further it's not a problem . I can drive to Brisbane to 'get a quote' etc. 

I even drove to T-fest. All without having to fill out a log book. 

Discussions were held last year regarding Qld adopting the log book scheme & the banana benders decided against it . I wonder why ? 

[dattoman]

It's still being worked out

Nothing set in stone yet

Lots of discussion about it atm

 

Doesn't look like we will get the 90 days format other places have

They are pushing for NO annual inspections.. its not mandatory for the 404 club rego scheme that's in place atm anyway (stock cars)

Hotrodders still have annuals... so they don't care.. .but the rest of us are against it

Looks like club involvement will be mandatory though... which means lots of new clubs will have to form...as the current clubs will not be able to handle the influx of lots of new and varied cars with modifications

Theres no talk yet about exactly how its going to be set up with the club as yet... still abit early

 

Cars seems to be regod here based on weight from what I can gather... I have 9 cars... and rego costs certainly look that way

Caddy is 2340 kg and about a grand

Maxima is 1345 kg and $972

Datsun is 711 kg and $650

 

My hatchback is 1245kg... so if it was rego'd it should be slightly less than the Maxima per year

Maybe the FJ is listed heavier than the Torana in the article

 

Be nice to pay a reduced amount in the future.

 

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Motoring enthusiast clubs play a big role in local communities across our State.

We all know West Aussies love their classic cars and bikes, but our motoring enthusiasts also attend cruises, exhibitions and events that often attract tourists or raise funds for charities.

But our current licensing scheme can be a big barrier for people looking to restore old vehicles to participate in our motoring clubs. Classic car owners are also currently prevented from accessing registration concessions if modifications – even safety improvements – have been made to their vehicles.

That's why we're introducing "Concessions for Classics" - offering a 75% discount on registration and slashing red tape.

Under our plan, all car and motorcycle enthusiasts with a vehicle older than 30 years - that are also registered to a Department of Transport approved club - will be eligible for the 75 per cent registration concession.

This will help bring classic cars across WA out of the shed and help their owners enjoy and make the most of them.

Drafting is proceeding as quickly as possible with the aim of having the new scheme in place in the second half of 2020.

In the meantime, we will be working with owners and clubs to finalise the plan and make sure we get it right.

 

This announcement is getting lots of interest and thanks for all your feedback. Just to clarify a few things.

 

The new ‘Concessions for Classics’ licensing scheme will remove restrictions that currently prevent modified classic vehicles and street rods from accessing licence concessions.

Further details are set to be worked out during the upcoming consultations with clubs and industry.

The Minister has directed the Department of Transport to draft regulation changes and upgrade systems to support the ‘Concessions for Classics’ scheme.

Part of this process will involve the Department of Transport meeting with as many people as possible and motoring clubs to discuss details such as registering a club and defining what constitutes a club event.

There will be more information released as final details are landed on, in consultation with the motoring community.

[S pack]

I don't find the Qld scheme restrictive at all. 

We can travel (for testing/tuning ) 15 km in any direction at any time & as often as we want . I'm yet to see this policed.

If we want to travel further it's not a problem . I can drive to Brisbane to 'get a quote' etc. 

I even drove to T-fest. All without having to fill out a log book. 

Discussions were held last year regarding Qld adopting the log book scheme & the banana benders decided against it . I wonder why ? 

On paper it appears to be restrictive. At the moment with my Torana on full rego I can go where I want whenever I want, the concessional rego policy QLD has says I would be restricted to club events, testing/tuning within 15km of home and taking the car for repairs or quotes for repairs. The current concessional rego would not legally allow me to go for a recreational cruise out to the country or the coast etc unless it was a club sanctioned event.

 

The 30, 60, 90 (or whatever) days unlimited use that Victorian enthusiasts can access appears to be the best scheme to me.

Hard to fathom why QLD enthusiasts would have voted against a scheme like Victoria has.

[Statler]

Hard to fathom why QLD enthusiasts would have voted against a scheme like Victoria has.

From what I heard , ( & this is hearsay , not gospel ) the log books are handed out by a 3rd party . Probably going to be some type of Government department . 

Here's the thing about Government departments , they like to do as little as possible & if they are required to do more than they already do , you can bet that they will find a way to attach a fee. 

 

You've read the SIVS conditions but you didn't read between the lines. 

A 'Club sanctioned cruise' is about as broad as you can get! lol. It all comes down to what YOUR Club defines it as. 

 

In my Club , 2 cars is a cruise . Anywhere , anytime No permission required .

If i want to take my family for a weekend down the coast i just need to send a txt to the President .

All of the local runs / events etc are covered .

Hardly restrictive. 

 

My only disappointment with SIVS ( & i bet W.A fall into the same trap ) is that we aren't allowed to use the cars for school formals unless it's for immediate family .

The whole intention of these schemes is to get the cars out of garages & into the public eyes . I can't think of a better way to expose  to this generation our motoring history than school formals. 

All because the limo hire companies cried about getting licenses & paying fees. Its not like they happen every week . 

 

I don't know what it's like in the big smoke , but out here in the sticks there is nowhere near enough limousines to take 150 kids to the prom. 

Does that mean the rest should miss out? 

[jpxu1]

Don't know why anyone wouldn't vote for the our Victorian system. I have 3 cars on it.

 

Our system allows up to 90 days use in two 45 day blocks. 45 days costs 10% of general registration, for me just under $80 - cheap. 

 

On initial application you can nominate either 45 or 90 days. 90 days is no cheaper at twice the price of 45, and if you nominate for the 45 and run out you can purchase the other 45, so don't know why anyone would go the 90 days up front unless they definitely know they will use them ( I have never gone over the 45).

 

Process is be a member of an authorized club and get an initial roadworthy. Some clubs do annual inspections, but it is not a legal requirement (my club doesn't) and neither is an annual roadworthy.

 

You can do whatever/whenever you want with your nominated days, even interstate (except WA I believe- i've been to VIC, SA, TAS & NSW)), but get caught with the book not filled out and the fine is more than the cost of standard registration.

 

Shannons gives me cheaper insurance premiums for the cars on club permit too.

 

What's not to like?

 

JPXU1

[Shiney005]

Now that's what I want.

[S pack]

Now that's what I want.

Looks like we'll have to move to Victoria!

[Ice]

Looks like we'll have to move to Victoria!

Not Mexico

[dattoman]

My only disappointment with SIVS ( & i bet W.A fall into the same trap ) is that we aren't allowed to use the cars for school formals unless it's for immediate family .

The whole intention of these schemes is to get the cars out of garages & into the public eyes . I can't think of a better way to expose  to this generation our motoring history than school formals. 

All because the limo hire companies cried about getting licenses & paying fees. Its not like they happen every week . 

 

 

I think it's more about liability than revenue

If your using your vehicle for hire you're not covered by your insurance policy 

Hence no paying passengers

This is the current situation on club rego and can't see it changing... in fact any rego.

If your car isn't rego'd as a private taxi or whatever they want to call it today... and the driver doesn't have the right licence endorsement... then paying passengers are a no go

[S pack]

I think it's more about liability than revenue

If your using your vehicle for hire you're not covered by your insurance policy 

Hence no paying passengers

This is the current situation on club rego and can't see it changing... in fact any rego.

If your car isn't rego'd as a private taxi or whatever they want to call it today... and the driver doesn't have the right licence endorsement... then paying passengers are a no go

Lots of Uber and other ride share drivers driving around without insurance cover or have state governments extended CTP cover to them during a ride share?

[dattoman]

I have a mate who does uber

He had to get his "F' class endorsement for his licence first

Not sure about the car rego/insurance part...I'll have to ask him

 

Maybe they have tightened up on oit... don't know

[yel327]

There is a rumour about sone State (or maybe Federal) class actions by the Taxi Industries about this exact issue. Their industry has been crippled as Uber etc do not have the same Licence and Rego restrictions as Taxis. Or so I have heard.

[S pack]

The Taxi industry here in QLD was severely screwed over by the Palaceshades government so I don't blame them for doing whatever they can to strike back.

[rexy]

A mate of mine invested in a couple of taxi licences years ago. Didn’t see the writing on the wall and lost half a million bucks.

Its the nature of the world though, new business competitors arrive who provide superior product and/or service. If you are too slow to adapt then you get burnt.

Just like Kodak who didn’t bother to develop digital technology as they didn’t see a future in it.

 

it certainly didn’t help the taxi industry in Melbourne that their service was rubbish and most of the cabs and cabbies had serious odour industries. They had a nice protected racket for a long time and their attitude showed they knew it.

 

 

Back on topic....

The Victorian scheme is fantastic. Eliminates any chance of a sticky roadside conversation with an aggressive copper who doesn’t believe that you are “testing” or “on your way to get a quote for work to be done on the car”.

 

I have tried hard and am yet to use my allocated 45 days in a year. For $80 plus ASRF $50 a year its a ripper!

[snuff1966]

In NSW we have a 60 day log book for H plated cars, ( over 30 years old and fairly standard cars, only period accessories ) It's also available for modified cars on a D plate. If you belong to a club. I have 5 cars ( soon to be 6 if I can get this Torana together) on H plates, rego is $48 each including CTP and insurance is cheap, I have the 6 cars and my bike, which is on normal rego, insured with Shannons and it's about $1300 for the year. It's great to be able to go for a drive whenever you can, the only downside is our little club has had an influx of members just so they can get the cheap rego and some of them don't really want to get involved with club activities. But if it gets old cars out and about it can only be a good thing I guess. 

[warrenm]

In NSW we have a 60 day log book for H plated cars, ( over 30 years old and fairly standard cars, only period accessories ) It's also available for modified cars on a D plate. If you belong to a club. I have 5 cars ( soon to be 6 if I can get this Torana together) on H plates, rego is $48 each including CTP and insurance is cheap, I have the 6 cars and my bike, which is on normal rego, insured with Shannons and it's about $1300 for the year. It's great to be able to go for a drive whenever you can, the only downside is our little club has had an influx of members just so they can get the cheap rego and some of them don't really want to get involved with club activities. But if it gets old cars out and about it can only be a good thing I guess. 

That is 60 days plus any club days, so it isn't a bad system.

[Shiney005]

\ the only downside is our little club has had an influx of members just so they can get the cheap rego and some of them don't really want to get involved with club activities. 

So why involve the car clubs at all? I don't want to join a club. I just want to go for a spin with my wife the 110 kays to Bunbury to have lunch now and again. 

[Dr Terry]

So why involve the car clubs at all? I don't want to join a club. I just want to go for a spin with my wife the 110 kays to Bunbury to have lunch now and again. 

They get the car clubs to administer the system to cut costs.

 

If you were to get the state authority (RMS, VicRoads etc.) to run the scheme, the costs (& therefore the rego fees) would escalate considerably.

 

Dr Terry