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#1 Ms-Xu1

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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:10 PM

Hi everyone,

If theres a genuine LC XU1 and over its life time, a owner has changed the colour , then back to factory colour (so 2 paint jobs) .. would this take away from the originality of the car?

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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:19 PM

They are only original once

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Posted 22 May 2020 - 08:55 AM

Has it still got the factory air in the tyres? :)

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Posted 22 May 2020 - 09:35 AM

Everything else being equal a car with original paint will command a premium over a repainted car regardless of whether the colour is original or not.

Probably the most important determinant for a survivor class car is their original factory paint job, once that is gone originality is irreversibly diminished.



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Posted 22 May 2020 - 11:39 AM

Are we talking acrylic lacquer or two pack for the second paint job ?



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Posted 22 May 2020 - 04:14 PM

Would two pack paint have a impact on value
Of a xu1 ?

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Posted 22 May 2020 - 05:36 PM

My two bob

matching tags x 3 (early models 2 x tags)

matching inner guard number

matching engine number

some sort of previous history

 

nothing else really matters then

 

cheers

Dazm



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Posted 22 May 2020 - 07:26 PM

Has it still got the factory air in the tyres? :)

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Just a cheeky comment feller. No offence intended. No harm in a bit of humour.

My point is that these cars now approaching 50 years old, and having always been somewhat of a boy racer and enthusiast car, Have inevitably suffered or enjoyed “improvement”. The unmodified car is a golden unicorn.
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Posted 22 May 2020 - 07:46 PM

No, not really. Since you are looking for one to buy your options are to keep dreaming, ie. wait until one comes up with original paint. Or buy the next original XU-1 body that comes up. Put that in your back pocket until you find the car you want. A bird in the hand and all that...

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Posted 23 May 2020 - 12:43 PM

XU1's were given a terrible abuse in the 1st 20 years of their lives by most people who owned them so there are very few that don't have some sort of body repairs/replacement panels, motors/gearbox/diff. Personally I don't think that the original colour would have too much impact on the value these days unless the original paint was untouched from new but I don't think many of them exist. In my limited experience every classic muscle car these days presents itself with some form of undesirable feature/s (which every owner knows about and sometimes don't like telling anyone) i.e might have a great body and non original motor or vise versa. My car is a classic example it was Chateau Mauve and was painted Salamanca red in the late 70's. I spoke to the 80 year old owner within the last 2 years who changed the colour and I asked him why he changed the colour and his response was that he hated Chateau Mauve! So the car is not the original colour but the body is better than most XU1's and has all its matching everything (including the carpet albeit its stuffed) which sort of makes up for the undesirable non original paint.



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Posted 23 May 2020 - 02:38 PM

Fifty years in the harsh Australian climate will virtually guarantee that original paint and rocking horse shit will be found equally as easily.As for the rest of the car,: 50 year old brake parts, tyres, belts, hoses and so it goes on, lets get real guys.



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Posted 23 May 2020 - 04:19 PM

There are still some out there with original paint (or touched up) and low miles but are rare..
Only reason why ive asked the question is because the car im looking at , owner wants approx same $$ as it would to have one that has original paint so im seeing what my options could be. The one im looking at is a sought after colour, so maybe could justify the price.
I know also what im expecting mechanically from a 50 year old car.

Edited by Ms-Xu1, 23 May 2020 - 04:20 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2020 - 05:42 PM

I bought my car for a different reason, I knew its history to late 70's. The change of colour didn't concern me too much because the car as a whole was pretty well unmolested (except for the paint) thanks to the mate I bought it off who was a lazy tight arse which worked to my advantage as unmolested cars tend to be sought after these days and are in a league of their own.



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Posted 23 May 2020 - 06:06 PM

Well that worked out pretty well... good buy! This Lc im considering needs a little work to the motor as its out and needs the opel gearbox put back in, but all the parts are there and its all matching numbers and has history. Other then that and the paint, its pretty sweet.

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Posted 23 May 2020 - 06:59 PM

Do you know of one with original paint for sale?

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Posted 23 May 2020 - 07:04 PM

There was a Lina Mint xu1 for sale last year but missed out on it and i know of a couple gtrs.

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Posted 23 May 2020 - 07:18 PM

You're on to a couple of GTRs? Well that's alright then. You can afford to wait until the perfect car comes along.
I sold a Lina Mint LC XU-1 once but it had red over the Lina Mint.

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Posted 23 May 2020 - 07:27 PM

Only after a XU1 :) Its a waiting game .. Gotta love the 70s colours

Do you regret selling it?

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Posted 23 May 2020 - 09:25 PM

I like white. And black. And black and yellow, like on the Slick 50 RX-7.
No, I don't regret selling it. XU-1s are old shitters. Been there, done that.

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Posted 23 May 2020 - 09:36 PM

One mans trash is another mans treasure

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:16 PM

One mans trash is another mans treasure



They are still out there be patient. Found my self a 4 73 mustard car last weekend been in shed since 92

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:58 PM

How’d you find it?

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 03:21 PM

Luck was on my side with this one

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 03:33 PM

Luck was on my side with this one


Nice

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 05:48 PM

Yes i do believe it changes the value as its lost its
originality.new paint would have to knock 10-20 g off
the price.you know what your buying when dealing with
an original car.under the new paint it could have
replacement panels etc..could of been rough as guts too.


Just saying..

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 24 May 2020 - 05:49 PM.





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