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[bat 53]

G'DAY ALL 

TO DO WITH  the CF cars with the all aussie did the early one's have the opel centre console

cheers  bat

[Indy Orange]

The LC console sits to the side slightly to accommodate the M20 Opel Gearbox ,I think by the time the later M20 Aussie one was used in the LCGTR it would have been the LJ type Console .Someone with more knowledge about that could confirm.

[grumpy xu1]

Don't forget, by lj type, Paul means lj 4 speed excluding xu1. As the xu1 has the shift patern plate.

[grumpy xu1]

Also, I'm pretty sure that it was discussed in the Sally report, the holes in the Opel console are in a different position to the holes in the Aussie console, so if you take acurate measurements, Marty may be able to verify what sort originally came in your car, which would be great information to have. Gary.

[madtoranajzedded]

If its got the thin vinyl covering over it its lc..ljs
dont have that..thats all i know haha

[bat 53]

well boys 

there are 2 that i know of that have all aussie with an opel console 

a couple of years back i read a post on here about the CF gtr that there is only 1 knowen opel cf colour is indi orange 

just trying to get more info on the subject 

 

cheers  bat

[grumpy xu1]

If its got the thin vinyl covering over it its lc..ljs
dont have that..thats all i know haha

Late lc are plastic aswell & no vinyl covering. Opel style is vinyl.

well boys 
there are 2 that i know of that have all aussie with an opel console 
a couple of years back i read a post on here about the CF gtr that there is only 1 knowen opel cf colour is indi orange 
just trying to get more info on the subject 
 
cheers  bat

The best way to be sure, is by measurements only, takes away the assumption & gives the facts !

[Indy Orange]

LC Opel console.Vinyl covered plastic.LJ console is quite different ,texture and not covered.

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[Dr Terry]

The "LJ" style console appeared in production around July 71 to allow for the intro of both the M20 Aussie 4-sp & the new 4-sp fitted to the 1600 OHC engine which was released around the same time.

 

The easiest way to tell the difference apart from the vinyl covering is that the hole is larger & the boot mount holes centres are further apart. The part catalogue specifies either 4 7/8 inch or 6-inch for the later one.

 

The XU1 console has the same part number & the shift pattern label is listed as a separate part.

 

Dr Terry

[bat 53]

i know the difference between the two consoles 

is it possible that they used the opel console with the aussie 

what changes were made to the body to fit the m20 aussie 

cheers  bat

[S pack]

i know the difference between the two consoles 
is it possible that they used the opel console with the aussie 
what changes were made to the body to fit the m20 aussie 
cheers  bat

Not likely. No modifications were required to the LC body to fit the Aussie M20 transmission.

[Indy Orange]

Oh it's real alright!

[Bazza]

Isn't the hole for the reverse switch wire in a different place? I think that this has been identified before.

Bazza

[u1 71]

I have a vinyl covered console to suit the Aussie m20 box

[crabba67]

First photo LC with a opel 4 speed reverse switch wire hole from 9/69 to 8/71

Second photo with M20 aussie 4 speed reverse switch wire hole 9/71 to the end

 

Cheers

 

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[bat 53]

well i think it is likely 

not trying to cause a shit storm but as i have stated there are 2 cars that i know of 

those 2 as far as the owners know they are original with the right dates on the gear box 

trying to find information on these cars is near on impossible as there doesn't seem to be alot of info out there 

so instead of making silly comments show me why it's not possible

 

hope for some info   bat

[meanmachine72]

how about you post pics of those 2 cars mate?.. prove to us they are what you say they are

[grumpy xu1]

I'll grab the popcorn !

[Ice]

I'll grab the popcorn !

Grab a six pack while ya there

[bat 53]

still comming with the silly comments

why is it so stupid holden have done it on plenty of occassions by useing left over parts 

so why not on the CF one of the cars is mine 

instead of making stupid comments prove to me that it didden't happen 

i'm new with these cars don't know a lot but trying to learn 

some of you's say facebook blokes are a joke maybe some of you's need to look in a mirra

 

BAT

[bat 53]

yes read that letter my understanding it refers to L6 cars not the gtr

[crabba67]

Hi there 

Here is the real info on the opel gearbox changes 

Hope you can read it 

The letter has a date etc 

yes the hole in the tunnel is in a different location due to the reverse switch in different location on the m20/ m21 gearbox 

Tailshaft is different  length and colour of the shaft 

speedo cable different

spacers under the cross member is different

shifter is different 

gearstick is different on Opel non depress on the ball 

etc

 

if people want to speak about the gearbox changes and not guess about stuff  I am more than happy to help 

enjoy the read 

cheers 

100% correct at Adelaide it all started at chassis number ALC35###A.

 

 

Albert Bat53 read the service letter dated 16 August 1971........L6 is for all six cylinder engine eg: 173S CF.

 

 

Cheers

[bat 53]

you are all saying that the reverse wire hole is further back didn't know that (check my build thread post 7)

tail shaft paint colour redoxide 

5mm spaces under gearbox x member

gearbox is a smooth case cast date B18 1