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#26 yel327

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 07:16 AM

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:59 AM

I shall tell him the news if that date on the tags rules it out.

The body number ends with -S maybe this is where the confusion came from. What does the suffix -S indicate (if anything)?



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Posted 01 August 2020 - 11:10 AM

Pagewood body (Sydney, S for Sydney). Pagewood only made Panel Van bodies for about 12 months from about 3/73 to 3/74 or thereabouts. The rest of the time from whenever vans first appeared until Pagewood closure they assembled Vans using Elizabeth bodies. GMH rationalised body plants in terms of who built what at that time. One of the drivers was Dandenong gave up most Holden and Statesman to concentrate on Torana, Elizabeth lost any Torana as LJ finished but took back the Van bodies Pagewood were doing, Statesman and Coupe went to Pagewood etc etc.

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 11:57 AM

Right back to FB I believed that all van bodies were made in Adelaide plant due to size of the press required for the roof panels. But then that would probably apply to wagons and they were built at all three plants.


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Posted 01 August 2020 - 12:21 PM

All panels for all body plants came from Woodville. Same presses for all. The panels were shipped to all body plants including those overseas for building into bodies. They had to ship painted bodies from Elizabeth to Dandenong, Pagewood and Mosman Park which were far bigger than roof panels by themselves. Plus from a certain time Acacia Ridge were building their own van bodies and it was the furthest Aussie body plant from Woodville. So I don’t think it was due to roof panel size.
It may have been the body jig for vans, they may have been limited in numbers. Could also have been the size of the body dip pool.
The same was true for cab-chassis bodies, they always came out of Elizabeth body plant. I’ve never seen one made elsewhere. They were assembled at all 4 local assembly plants operating during the HQ-HZ cab-chassis run.

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 03:53 PM

Very interesting. So to be clear there was only one press shop, at Adelaide.

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 07:12 PM

At Woodville. They also pressed panels for others, like Nissan.

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:16 PM

Right back to FB I believed that all van bodies were made in Adelaide plant due to size of the press required for the roof panels. But then that would probably apply to wagons and they were built at all three plants.

Did I read somewhere on this forum that the roof panel for panel vans extended over several models?



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 12:36 AM

So when Woodville shut though moved to Elizabeth?


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Posted 02 August 2020 - 07:29 AM

Did I read somewhere on this forum that the roof panel for panel vans extended over several models?


Yes, HD through to WB.

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 07:45 AM

So when Woodville shut though moved to Elizabeth?


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I think Woodville closed when Trimatic ceased but not sure if panel pressing was still there at that time.

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 10:10 PM

For clarification, does the statement that sandman’s were only produced in 1974 refer to calendar year or Holden production year?

That is January to December 1974 or September 1983 to August 1974?



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 10:16 PM

Calendar year Rexy

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 12:16 AM

Thankyou.



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Posted 03 August 2020 - 07:53 AM

The first Car To Sales Date’s for Sandman was late January 1974. They did the two pilots/concert cars in 12/74 but as everything on them was standard or optional equipment on other Holden there was no need to do any online pilots or restricted production. The only unique components were:

Paint blackouts
Stripes
Horn badge.

The horn badge was simple. Stripes were in a box and to be fitted by the dealer if customer wanted them. Blackouts were done in the finishing area, not part of the assembly process.

Seats were standard option.
Wheels and spare winch were standard option.
Dash and harness was standard option except speedo which was ex GTS.
Grille was ex SS.
Steering wheel and cap were ex GTS except for logo insert.
Headlight surrounds, guards were ex GTS.
Console was standard option from other lux levels.
Badges were the same as the base Belmont or Kingswood.
Stripes were in a box.
Paint blackouts done in finishing area.




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