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#51 Ice

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Posted 20 November 2020 - 08:01 PM

Count your blessings Rob I witnessed a bike fatality yesterday not a pretty sight

No it isn’t i have nearly been clipped twice in the last 6 months 



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Posted 20 November 2020 - 08:06 PM



So you rev the engine up to say about 6000 rpm then just drop the clutch
simple really Col

lol...impressive activity, extreme car control.

Edited by RallyRed, 20 November 2020 - 08:06 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2020 - 08:22 PM

There is only one thing that puts a smile on my dial when someone is doing a burnout and that's when their engine drops it's guts all over the ground. :)



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Posted 21 November 2020 - 10:56 AM

Where my crash happened, in almost the same circumstances, there was another crash some years previously.

One of the local drug dealers was riding his KTM hard towards the intersection.

I could hear him coming from nearly a kilometre away, peak revs and upchanging.

I heard the impact.

In his case, a car turned across in front of him.

An elderly bloke was driving.

The bike was doing about 140 on impact. The speedo needle was stuck at that point.

He was likely also on the back wheel.

He sailed about 15 metres through the air, landing up against a fence.

He sailed past a vacant block before landing at the fence of an occupied block.

 

That wasnt a pretty sight when I got there.

There were already people there and they were in a bit of confusion.

He was dead.

It would have been quick.

Someone was looking at giving him CPR, but when I looked at his injuries, it wouldnt have helped.

 

There is a roundabout at that intersection now.

 

By far the worst injuries I have personally seen were the result of a driver using his mobile phone.

He was on a left hand bend, and drifted onto the wrong side of the road.

He collided with a tabletop truck.

This particular truck was a lighter cab/chassis, narrower, but fitted with a full sized tabletop.

The tray was a good deal wider than the cab.

That bit hit the A pillar of the Commodore wagon, and took the B pillar out as well.

The drivers head looked like an exploded watermelon through the back of the wagon.

When the body snatchers turned up, they worked out there was an arm missing, so we had to do a search for it.

There was skull and brain matter spread over a large area on the road.

We picked up what we could and hosed the rest off.

The crows had a great day the next day.

 

My crash went reasonably well in the scheme of things.

I had very little in the way of visible injuries.

A very small area on one arm of gravel rash.

A deep hole above my left ankle where Im guessing the gear lever dug in on the way through.

I had heard about losing your shoes in a bike crash before.

The bloke who died had his shoes on the road. Mine were there too.

Maybe they get caught up in the controls on the way through.

Happens too quick to really know.

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 11:09 AM

I was in front of a truck that got knocked by a truck in the lane next to it, and speared it into oncoming traffic, which happened to be a guy on a bike going to work. Bike was on fire, I was one of the first there with a bus driver and a doctor. Not a pretty sight. Doctor told us not to risk going near the body which was next to the burning bike, said look at the injuries but no blood. Poor soul was gone. Not something I’ll ever forget.

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 12:56 PM

I was in front of a truck that got knocked by a truck in the lane next to it, and speared it into oncoming traffic, which happened to be a guy on a bike going to work. Bike was on fire, I was one of the first there with a bus driver and a doctor. Not a pretty sight. Doctor told us not to risk going near the body which was next to the burning bike, said look at the injuries but no blood. Poor soul was gone. Not something I’ll ever forget.

Not something I’ll ever forget.
 
How about a headless body landing on you while you are bent over testing a motor (like you are piggy-backing him) and spurting blood all over you ( yes some bodies to still bleed after death) until the heart stops.   Wondered why i was feeling all warm on the back of my head and neck and what is happening.   Fell over, shit, lost my hard hat, bang my head getting out of there and knocked myself semi-conscious. woke up in the medical centre with the staff pouring over me trying to find where the blood was coming from. (not mine)
 
How about stripping back a 12 ton paper reel and have a pair of arms drop out. then go looking for the rest of him.
 
How about stepping over a tarp and seeing blood running out from under it.  And asking what's under there.  ANS:- the guy this machine just killed now go and fix it.
 
How about being sent out to reverse a machine that does not reverse to get a body out of it, or what's left of it.   and having to carefully survey the scene and work out how to do it.  Not being told any more than go out there and reverse the machine, nothing about why.   Managing director had to give the supervisor that sent me out there without telling me a 2 week holiday so I had calmed down enough not to punch him out when I next saw him.  Why did the MD do that, because he would have punched him out as well for doing that.
 
It is one thing for rescue and medical staff to expect difficult scenes to encounter, but "surprises"  have a profound effect.  I understand PTSD and understand the consequences of mistakes.
I can't wait for dementia to kick in and forget these traumatic events. 

Edited by Balfizar, 21 November 2020 - 01:00 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2020 - 03:43 PM

If it happened on a quiet back street I wouldn't say a thing.  But during a public event on a crowded street with a stop sign at the end of it?  He is a knob jockey.

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 06:33 PM

I'm pretty sure he's had plenty of pineapples already. + losing his car probably costing him 100k, we've all done stupid shit, who knows he was most probably egged on by his mate's, the crowd & maybe even his passengers. Luckily it didn't kill anyone, what about how many f@ckwitts are drug or drink driving. Or car thieves, thieves are some of the lowest pieces of shit in my eye's. Not many people express the need for harsh penalties there though.

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 09:54 AM

There is a guy in a lot of the comments on social media defending the driver saying throttle shaft come out of the cheap china throttle body using the video to back it up as you don't hear it come off the noise until after smacking the post

 

Either way that car should not have been on a public road



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Posted 24 November 2020 - 10:28 AM

What a load of crap.If you listen to the video you can clearly hear him lift off the throttle just before he hits the bollard. Anyway the Police will have already checked over the car for mechanical failures.

Edited by S pack, 24 November 2020 - 10:30 AM.


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Posted 24 November 2020 - 10:50 AM

What a load of crap.If you listen to the video you can clearly hear him lift off the throttle just before he hits the bollard. Anyway the Police will have already checked over the car for mechanical failures.


Is there any later news links from the cops?

With the clearly illegal mods on vic plates be interesting to know what he is charged with

 

Would imagine insurance would not be paying the bloke a cent



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Posted 24 November 2020 - 02:37 PM

Out of interest which mods do you think are illegal?

 

He has paid a heavy price for a few seconds of brain fade.

We were all young once and as they say, “but for the grace of god....”



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Posted 24 November 2020 - 02:40 PM

He was charged with Dangerous driving.

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 03:13 PM

In this footage you can hear him lift off the throttle just before the almighty smash.

https://www.dailymai...Queensland.html



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Posted 25 November 2020 - 03:04 PM

Not saying what he did was right or wrong but perhaps you should see these pictures

Broken throttle shaft and pics of the front runners being locked up and let’s not forget the troopy pulling out in front of him

It’s a shame everyone is quick to kick a fellow car man while he’s down

The more media attention it gets the worse it is for everyone. Old mate #@$^%& up. Move on

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None of this makes what he did right but it might shut some of the keyboard critics up

It’s a series of events that lead to an unfortunate situation where thankfully no one was seriously injured.

I believe so far he only been given a slap on the wrist with the dangerous driving charge. There’s also talk of insurance possibly paying but who knows at this stage

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Posted 25 November 2020 - 11:13 PM

can clearly see throttle shaft is broken, unfortunate thing to happen.



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Posted 25 November 2020 - 11:20 PM

Paul, where are the pics of the front wheels locked up?



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Posted 26 November 2020 - 06:20 AM

maybe the skid marks show that Dave?



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Posted 26 November 2020 - 07:58 AM

Wonder how much media attention this will gain? 

 

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Posted 26 November 2020 - 08:02 AM

Paul, where are the pics of the front wheels locked up?

The two piss ant skid marks on the road

They aren’t back tyre marks


Like I said. Not condoning what happened but there is more to the story

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Posted 26 November 2020 - 11:13 AM

From looking at those pictures, the throttle shaft appears to have broken out of the housing so to me that should have stopped the car accelerating all together. Weird one...



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Posted 26 November 2020 - 11:56 AM

Snapped on impact?

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Posted 26 November 2020 - 01:22 PM

I think some people can lose a bit of touch with reality being around race cars all the time. I don't see how lighting up a 7 sec car like that on a busy suburban street can ever be defensible.



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Posted 26 November 2020 - 01:37 PM

I certainly wouldn't assume a broken throttle shaft would stop a car accelerating. The throttle plate would then have no return spring and may just be loose in the intake somewhere with the throttle body fully open. Would be interesting to see more photos of that area looking down the intake.

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Posted 26 November 2020 - 10:57 PM

From looking at those pictures, the throttle shaft appears to have broken out of the housing so to me that should have stopped the car accelerating all together. Weird one...


I've never seen a shaft break in a throttle body, but their would still be the butterfly & the rest of the shaft inside the throttle body + on the other side there's the throttle position sensor, which could possibly still record an open position. It's obviously just about the aic sensor on an ls engine. So it could be temporarily possible !

Just above, I'm spelling terribly.




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