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Posted 10 January 2021 - 10:06 AM

I took some dead batteries to the tip the other day and they accepted them................................free of charge!! :D



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 03:07 PM

Aren’t they worth scrap Laurie?


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Posted 10 January 2021 - 03:12 PM

Laurie doesn’t need the money  :D



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 04:03 PM

If they had charged him I'm sure he would have been shocked. ;)



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:06 PM

Boom boom basil brush

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:15 PM

You bloke deserve to be in a CELL with those bad jokes. I'm Positive about that.



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:21 PM

Jail cell you say Col that would lead to the electric chair 



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:32 PM

yeah, that would Hertz for sure Geno.....



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:34 PM

Whats the charge 



Oh stop 



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:35 PM

Whats the charge


Oh stop

telling dad jokes


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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:41 PM

Whats the charge


Oh stop


Generating a resistance.

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:50 PM

:clap:



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Posted 10 January 2021 - 07:45 PM

Same reason people put LS engines in older cars.


Ls engines & electric transplants are nothing alike. For 1 the ls is still a pushrod v8, it only has fuel injection & some sensors in varience really.
Like dating an older super model, but she gets a few cosmetic touch ups.
Electric is like dating a super model & leaving her for a guy.
Both shouldn't be considered as an option !

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 07:47 PM

I mean leaving the super model & going for a guy, both shouldn't be done.
Ls is fine with me, providing it's not in a classic like a monaro a9x ect.

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 07:57 PM

Ls engines & electric transplants are nothing alike. For 1 the ls is still a pushrod v8, it only has fuel injection & some sensors in varience really.
Like dating an older super model, but she gets a few cosmetic touch ups.
Electric is like dating a super model & leaving her for a guy.
Both shouldn't be considered as an option !


Yes they are alike. Putting an LS with ECU controlled auto and serpentine front drive with air and steer (and of course modern front suspension and brakes) into a dinosaur like a 50’s Chevy/Pontiac/GMC truck is very much modernising it. Doing the same thing with a quad cam 5.6/5.7L Toyota/Nissan/Ram engine is too.
In 5-10 years time when onboard energy storage (possibly batteries but also maybe fuel cells) are of the next generation of technology and affordable is really no different. The electric machine technology is already here, just the storage is lagging at the moment. Eventually we won’t have a lot of choice, it’ll be drive modern crap or modernise older stuff.
Personally, I’d rather an injected SBC/BBC or Hemi etc with the same modernised stuff I mentioned above, but some people prefer LS. At least they aren’t fitting 4cyl or Japanese straight 6’s to old school iron, that would be seriously batting for the other team!

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 09:37 PM

The ls, is pretty much like an injected version of a small block, but with much better heads & a bottom end design very similar to a modern hemi. Strength, bang for back hp, drivability and reliability are a huge advantage of them.

I don't care what badge is on any v8.

I just can't bring myself to the electric stuff at all. Lets hope that's a long time away yet please.

I've seen plenty of jap shit in old muscle, sadly.

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 10:05 PM

It’s heads and roller cam that make the GM LS more powerful. You can buy heads just as good for a SBC today and with a roller cam they’ll go just as hard, and can be used in most stuff of interest (to me anyway) without Engineering or custom sumps and pipes etc. but as stated some people go that way which I get. I reckon it would have cost me three times as much for an LS3 in my HK as what the 385ci (same 6.2L) is costing. I’m using a $150 4 bolt 1968 cast block with new internals (forged crank, rods and pistons). Hydraulic roller cam. $50 Corvette alloy heads with new valves/springs. Yes the serpentine setup is expensive but factor in I don’t need to buy water pump, alternator, power steering pump or compressor. Or brackets for them. The Holley Sniper and Hyperspark cost a bit too, but probably cheaper than customising an LS harness, ECU and air box to suit the HK. $100 2.5” Corvette Ramshorns. And no custom radiator, hoses, mounts, converter (to mate LS to TH350) etc. And no Engineering required for the engine, just for the front end, 9”, brakes, tailshaft and CV8 buckets.

Electric conversions in older cars will be a boom industry in 20 years. Hell, they’ll all be upgrading to electric once you can’t buy a diesel anymore, diesel will probably be the first to go unless they can Engineer a way to make them low emissions without making them a reliability nightmare.

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 07:01 AM

What all the long haul transport going to run on if not diesel Byron?

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 10:03 AM

Diesel will be around for a long time yet imho 

Lots of machinery ,trucks ,ships etc etc still need it 

if anything unleaded will be the first to go 



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Posted 11 January 2021 - 10:20 AM

Google Volvo electric trucks.

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 10:28 AM

Yes i know about that 

We live in takes 10 years or longer to catch up to the rest of the world 



Australia 



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Posted 11 January 2021 - 10:43 AM

What all the long haul transport going to run on if not diesel Byron?

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Not sure, but it’ll be gone from dual cabs in the not too distant future as people won’t put up with the BS. Diesels used to be the most reliable but gutless engine around but not anymore, pollution stuff plus trying to make them perform like a petrol engine hasn’t helped. Once the next round of Euro emissions are forced on us I reckon we’ll either be back to ULP or hybrids for this class of vehicle. Who in their right mind wants a 2 litre diesel in a vehicle used to tow 2500kg+? Should be kept for city runarounds.

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 12:27 PM

way off topic...but this 180,000t bulk cargo vessel is in Newcastle today. One of 2 x LNG powered built in 2020.

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 12:27 PM

We spend more time cleaning EGR's and DPF's than servicing nowadays - modern diesels suck...



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Posted 11 January 2021 - 06:03 PM

Do they? I've not cleaned any of those things except as required by the normal servicing schedule, which is to say, rarely. Recently, I've owned 3L Patrol, Skoda, Triton, XTrail, and finally BMW's sweet 3L twin scroll unit. All from new and I've not had any trouble with any of them and they were all great engines...save perhaps the CVT XTrail.




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