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[xu1_lc]

I'm in the market for a CK xu1

In this market whats would the budget have to stretch to in everyone's opinion

would like a matching numbered car

[S pack]

How long is a piece of string?

Judging by the way prices have been going for LJ XU1's and taking into account the rarity of the CK XU1's I'd expect your going to be looking between 300k and 400k for a turn key example depending on condition and originality.

Edited by S pack, 08 November 2021 - 07:45 PM.

[LCK186]

s pack     hi I think u are right price wise   I don't remember the last time a lc ck Bathurst xu1 that popped up for sale     price wise 300 t0 400k for a good example ck xu1  with history inc books etc   as for  my amathist ck it needs a full resto so the price would be a lot lower     these little pocket rockets have gone through the roof in prices judging by the last 2 lj xu1s sold recently at auction    so any one who owns a torana  from     hb    to    lx      2 or 4 door      gtr         gtr xu1     l34      slr and 5000    ss hatch    and a9x    etc   their on a winner     its about time these toranas have match prices against the gt falcons  and the gt ho etc            what do the forum members think about pricing of these cars

[RallyRed]

Hi, for a nice orig car, or a fully resto'd and complete car, I think the current market would put you around the $200 -300k mark.

 

Sounds stupid really, but that where it seems to be?

 

I note at the auction last weekend 

-  the LC XU1 with race history, pics, programmes, CAMS log book etc etc, got to around 200k?? and was passed in. ( 3100x car) 

- the A9X hatch with the same sort of doco etc as above got to $590k and was passed in.

 

This suggests to  me the vendors have high expectations...good luck with the search

[stealthxu1]

prob worth up to 200k

[S pack]

prob worth up to 200k

Find one for 200k or less that you can jump in and drive away. Bet you can't.

How often do we see a turn key CK XU1 for sale or even a total sh*tbox that needs a wheelbarrow full of $$$$ thrown at it?  Almost never.
 

[71xu1]

Find one for 200k or less that you can jump in and drive away. Bet you can't.
How often do we see a turn key CK XU1 for sale or even a total sh*tbox that needs a wheelbarrow full of $$$$ thrown at it?  Almost never.
 

True, I don't think you would find a matching numbers turn key 3100x for under $200k, that doesn't need some work.

[MFM]

On the subject of XU1 prices, I did something out of character and entered my car to the Gold Coast Car show last weekend warts and all as she's not restored and a lot of the car is unmolested in fact all of it except the colour change in 1978. Attracted a lot of attention, mainly from old blokes (my vintage) . I've never seen an XU1 at any car event on the Gold Coast for some reason? Weirdly enough most said to leave it alone and don't restore. They loved the original condition even saying to leave the torn drivers seat (stitching has come undone). ratty original carpet and the single crack in the middle of the dash pad. I was offered 150k by a bloke who seemed genuine as he found the un-restored look refreshing and rare . So she's not a CK nor what is commonly referred to as the Bathurst vintage as manufacture date is 5/72, but honest cars still seem to attract good $

[Kockum]

150K for your car with it's factory fitted JP  is WAY too low . If it was my car that low baller would be told to hit the road!

[LCK186]

hi I totally agree 150k is a low ball price for a full matching xu1     eg all 3 tags matching   engine etc   more closer to 200k plus in todays market that's if u are selling        as for the lc ck xu1    again I haven't seen 1 for sale in many many years          a full matching ck xu1 car restored or unrestored with books and history well that's something I would love to see at a car show    as dave mentioned   how long is a piece of string on price       i agree around 300k to 400k       time will tell when one popes up for sale

[MFM]

Excuse my ignorance but why is the CK so valuable compared to later models (post Sep72) particularly the last 73 models which had all the goodies. Rarety due to numbers made?

[S pack]

Excuse my ignorance but why is the CK so valuable compared to later models (post Sep72) particularly the last 73 models which had all the goodies. Rarety due to numbers made?

Hi Mark, I reckon it would be because the CK was the final and only evolution of the LC XU1. The 3100X engined LC XU1 remained the exact same mechanical specification from the 1st to the last car built until the upgraded CK (Bathurst) XU1 was released.The ultimate LC XU1 to own I suppose is the simple answer.

[MFM]

Thanks Dave. Kind of like the last of the 73 XU1's I guess.

[LCK186]

hi the  lc xu1   and ck bathurst xu1 are like the gt falcon    and the gt ho falcon          eg     xw gt value 175k plus     the xw gt ho value 300k plus       there was a limited edition of ck xu1   and the xw gt ho    this is why they are more dearer and sought after by enthusiests

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

 Rarety due to numbers made ?

 

300 : 1971 Ford Falcon GT HO Phase III ( Diff ratios 3.25, 3.5, 3.91 )

300 : 1971 Holden Torana CK LC GTR XU-1 ( Diff ratios 3.36, 3.08 )

316 : 1971 Chrysler Charger RT E38 ( Diff ratios 3.23, 3.5 )

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Of the 300 CK,s produced by Holden in 1971, 200 were fitted with the 3.36 diff ratio, while the other 100 were fitted with the 3.08 diff ratio as per C.A.M.S. rules. While not successful at Bathurst in 1971, the CK did go on to win the 1971 Manufacturers Championship. The CK took on the might and power of the 1971 GT HO Phase III and the 1971 RT E38 Chargers and defeated them both. I believe earning them the title of the Giant Killer. Many XU-1 enthusiasts believe there may be as few as 30 cars remaining of the original 300 produced. Putting a value on one of these Giant Killers is to difficult of a task, to me there priceless.......

[Pallbag]

Excuse my ignorance but why is the CK so valuable compared to later models (post Sep72) particularly the last 73 models which had all the goodies. Rarety due to numbers made?

Thanks for asking that question, I was wondering the same thing

[S pack]

226 cars fitted with 3.36:1 ratio rear axle, 73 cars fitted with 3.08:1 rear axle and 1 S.V.O fitted with a 2.78:1 rear axle, to be exact.

So much for 200 and 100 to satisfy CAMS rules.

 

Ford built 300 GTHO Phase III, 200 cars for the 3.25:1 and 3.50:1 rear axle ratios and 100 cars for the alternative 3.91:1 ratio rear axle would be in line with the CAMS rules for 1971 Group E.

At the end of the day the GTHO Phase II homologated the 3.25:1 and 3.50:1 rear axle ratios and as the Phase III was an evolution of the Phase II those axle ratios did not need to be homologated again.

The Phase III did however homologate the 3.91:1 ratio rear axle.

 

The CK XU1 was an evolution of the 3100x engined car so there was no requirement to re-homologate that which had already been homologated.

As can be seen from the numbers taken from the Vehicle Master List GMH did not build anywhere close to 100 CK's with 3.08:1 rear axles and they were not required to.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

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One would hope the Vehicle Master List is accurate and one is reading from the correct set of rules......

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

So much for 200 and 100 to satisfy CAMS rules.

 

Ford built 300 GTHO Phase III, 200 cars for the 3.25:1 and 3.50:1 rear axle ratios and 100 cars for the alternative 3.91:1 ratio rear axle would be in line with the CAMS rules for 1971 Group E.

 

The Phase III did however homologate the 3.91:1 ratio rear axle.   

 

 

 

[S pack]

Quote "One would hope the Vehicle Master List is accurate and one is reading from the correct set of rules......"

 

 

LOL, that's ripe coming from someone who has spent over 10 years counting cars, and compiling that data as fact, from the Vehicle Master List (VIN Disc) and then reading from the wrong CAMS rule book for the years of LC XU1 production.

[S pack]

The minimum production/sales of 200 basically identical XW GTHO Phase II Falcons homologated the 3.50:1 & 3.25:1 rear axle ratios.

 

[Hot mustard]

To think I knocked back my mates offer back in 1976 to sell me his orange CK for $3k.
I could only stump up $2350 for a 71 GTR.
He was lucky he didn't sell it me though bc he sold it for $3500 the first Saturday he advertised it in the Age.

[meanmachine72]

got same diff ratio count as S pack has for CK cars

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

The minimum production/sales of 200 basically identical XW GTHO Phase II Falcons homologated the 3.50:1 & 3.25:1 rear axle ratios.

 

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