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#1 Croweater13

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Posted 02 December 2021 - 09:38 AM

Hi

I'm just after peoples opinions only on this topic..

So I have a LJ GTR-XU1 the original JP is long gone, who knows where

But I have located an NP block that is dated 15 months after the build date of my XU1

Now this rusty old thrashed out heap of you know what NP block, is going for what I would call pretty big money and I'm scratching for the coin

What are peoples opinions on the capital gain I will get for the overall value of my XU1 with this NP block over the tidy QL that is currently in the car now?

The rest of the car is about a 8-9 out of 10 it has new paint and new chrome and the original interior, so ild value the car it at about 110/120K even with the QL 

Thanks for your opinions  :driving:



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Posted 04 December 2021 - 07:58 PM

Mate, I think you are undervaluing your XU1. If it is as good as you say it is then I believe you should be thinking at least 160k in today's market, and that is with the QL block.

Others may disagree with me but with an NP block in the bay and correct cyl head for the build date of your car I am thinking 210k should be attainable.

 

Just my 5 cents.



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Posted 04 December 2021 - 08:07 PM

NP adds $50k value? Perhaps if a documented warranty replacement..

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Posted 04 December 2021 - 08:20 PM

NP adds $50k value? Perhaps if a documented warranty replacement..

Maybe, maybe not. The market for these cars is not as predictable as it used to be.

At the end of the day I can't see the OP losing money by fitting an NP to his XU1.

Obviously the cost of the NP and any reconditioning work, if required, is a huge factor but surely 15k - 20k tops?
 



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Posted 04 December 2021 - 08:20 PM

I honestly think the type of investors buying these now don’t care too much if the engine is original or not, more that the car is actually genuine.

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 07:39 AM

I honestly think the type of investors buying these now don’t care too much if the engine is original or not, more that the car is actually genuine.


I think that some of these investors just need to be told that it's genuine and don't do much of their own research. Quite a few of them I'm sure aren't passionate about the particular type of car that they're buying, it's just a trendy investment. That's my assumption anyway.

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 09:02 AM

Hmm...your car sounds like it would be in the 140 -160k area in this market?

Maybe $10k for the NP boat anchor + allow $10k to get it running and in the car?...put you at $180 to break even.

 

Could be easier to sell as is?

One of those things where you will never know either way really. 

 

If the NP goes in, to maximise the value, you then need the Auction house type story to go with it..."the owner looked everywhere for a period NP engine, and after searching for over 130 years he found one. After carefully killing the engine's owner and burying him in a secret location, the engine was fitted to the car. His hard work is your gain, you will never find another Torana with this degree of provinance or etc etc"

 

But seriously, I think you could test the market as is and see what it reveals.

 

Good  luck mate, a good problem to have.


Edited by RallyRed, 05 December 2021 - 09:03 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2021 - 09:38 AM

Hmm...your car sounds like it would be in the 140 -160k area in this market?

Maybe $10k for the NP boat anchor + allow $10k to get it running and in the car?...put you at $180 to break even.

 

Could be easier to sell as is?

One of those things where you will never know either way really. 

 

If the NP goes in, to maximise the value, you then need the Auction house type story to go with it..."the owner looked everywhere for a period NP engine, and after searching for over 130 years he found one. After carefully killing the engine's owner and burying him in a secret location, the engine was fitted to the car. His hard work is your gain, you will never find another Torana with this degree of provinance or etc etc"

 

But seriously, I think you could test the market as is and see what it reveals.

 

Good  luck mate, a good problem to have.

Col, I'm guessing if he has valued his XU1 at 110 - 120k then it is likely he paid somewhere around the 100k or less for it. Spending 20k? on an NP to slot in it if the car is actually worth around 160k I can't see that he can lose in the longer term.
 


Edited by S pack, 05 December 2021 - 09:38 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2021 - 08:21 AM

Thanks Gents

I really do appreciate the comments, and I almost did have to kill someone to get the money to pay for the NP block boat mooring haha

WOW maybe I have undervalued my car by the sounds, i guess it not having the original JP made me think it was never going to be worth more that 120K no matter how nice it looks

And considering I paid less than half of that a few years ago

This NP is just about the icing on the cake, however the cherry on top will be the cylinder head

What should I be looking for? an August '72 head to match the build date of the car or a December '73 cast head to match the engine build date?

It currently has Super Flow number punched on a modified 9 port head and they have ground the casting numbers off (I hope it wasn't the original JP head!)

And Im not looking to sell the car/s but enjoy them and be my legacy for my children when I'm gone

Hopefully they love the cars as much as I do

Cheers



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Posted 06 December 2021 - 09:26 AM

You need an Aug '72 head. Good decision on the block  :spoton:



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Posted 06 December 2021 - 10:16 AM

or a E172 7H...

 

8/72 LJ XU-1.s are what many term a "Bathurst" XU-1....

 

Sprintmasters or nibless ?



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Posted 06 December 2021 - 01:16 PM

The very first 100 August LJ XU-1's received the nibless rims, the rest received the self locating sprintmasters.......



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Posted 06 December 2021 - 04:59 PM

here we go..... again.... 



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Posted 07 December 2021 - 02:31 PM

Q.

If the H252 cylinder head is dated the 25 of August 1972 and my car was built a week or two before the 25th

Would I still be looking for the H252 cylinder head or a cylinder head pre-build date of my vehicle?

To me it would be more likely that I would need the cylinder head produced before the H252, or am I wrong?



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Posted 07 December 2021 - 03:11 PM

E172 7H



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Posted 07 December 2021 - 05:23 PM

Thanks Fly Again 

That leads to another question, did some homologation XU1's built mid Aug'72 have this E172 7H head?

Or is that getting too far into a "grey area?"



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Posted 07 December 2021 - 05:47 PM

Fly is correct, u need E172 head for your early August xu1



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Posted 07 December 2021 - 06:10 PM

That leads to another question, did some homologation XU1's built mid Aug'72 have this E172 7H head?

 

Yes.






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