Gday.
I'm just tryin to work out my budget for the LJ, and I'm wondering how much a full set of bushes is gunna set me back?
I'll probably get new standard height shocks and springs aswell, How is that gunna affect the bank account?
Its an LJ 2 door with a 173, if that helps.
Cheers, RIM
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 08:58 PM
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 09:47 PM
All these are Noltec brand.
-Radius Rod Bushes - $41.88
-Front Lower Control Arm Inner Bushes - $64.01
-Upper Control Arm Inner Bushes $95.32
-Lower Bump Stops - $47.31
-Upper Bump Stops - $47.31
-Crossmember Outriggers - $36.18
Total - $331.98
I see complete Superpro kits go on ebay for around $220, brand new they are around $370
Or you could go rubber bushes and that will probably set you back around $100.
You might as well go new tie rod ends and balljoints, A set on ebay went for around $110 cant remember with or without tie rod ends.
What Im unsure about is that the noltec site didn't have any bushes for between the crossmember and the inner guards.
-Radius Rod Bushes - $41.88
-Front Lower Control Arm Inner Bushes - $64.01
-Upper Control Arm Inner Bushes $95.32
-Lower Bump Stops - $47.31
-Upper Bump Stops - $47.31
-Crossmember Outriggers - $36.18
Total - $331.98
I see complete Superpro kits go on ebay for around $220, brand new they are around $370
Or you could go rubber bushes and that will probably set you back around $100.
You might as well go new tie rod ends and balljoints, A set on ebay went for around $110 cant remember with or without tie rod ends.
What Im unsure about is that the noltec site didn't have any bushes for between the crossmember and the inner guards.
Edited by JBird, 29 October 2006 - 09:50 PM.
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Posted 30 October 2006 - 09:32 AM
So I can budget around $350 for bushes... Cheers.
Any idea of what new Springs and Shocks would cost?
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Any idea of what new Springs and Shocks would cost?
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Posted 30 October 2006 - 10:24 AM
i got a set of bushes from ebay superpro ones for my lh $310 the lj ones are cheaper you cant go wrong with the bloke from ebay, great communication and he sent them asap,
i got my ball joints upper and lower from box hill auto spares, $18.50 each they are the greaseable ones, some arnt...
springs are about $90 a pair
havent got shocks yet ordering them tommoz so i can tell u then.....
i got my ball joints upper and lower from box hill auto spares, $18.50 each they are the greaseable ones, some arnt...
springs are about $90 a pair
havent got shocks yet ordering them tommoz so i can tell u then.....
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Howd you go with the shocks, milco?
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Posted 31 October 2006 - 06:30 PM
RIM, budget for $1000, springs, shocks, bushes (front and back), ball joints, wheel alignment and fitting/labour. That way you will be covered.
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Posted 31 October 2006 - 06:43 PM
Yeah, i thought it would somewhere there. Cheers guys.
Most of the labour will be done by me and Dad, with a bit of help from mates in the trade.
Cheers, RIM
Most of the labour will be done by me and Dad, with a bit of help from mates in the trade.
Cheers, RIM
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 11:38 PM
Sorry to thread steal, but Rim may wanna know this one as well. Whats the best combination to run on a street car that sees some entry level motorsport bushes wise?
All rubber, half rubber half nolothene or all nolothene (spelling
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Mines a daily so maybe all nolothene wouldn't be a good idea, but would all rubber compromise handling too much?
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All rubber, half rubber half nolothene or all nolothene (spelling
)Mines a daily so maybe all nolothene wouldn't be a good idea, but would all rubber compromise handling too much?
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 11:45 PM
i think if you go all rubber (new) then your biggest compromise on handling would be tyre/spring/shock selection and compatability.
you will notice rubber bushes letting your handling down when you start talking 5/10ths of a second lap time between tyre brands.
you will notice rubber bushes letting your handling down when you start talking 5/10ths of a second lap time between tyre brands.
Edited by ALX76, 20 November 2006 - 11:46 PM.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 11:48 PM
Sorry shoulda told the rest of the story shouldn't I?
Running King Springs 1" lower, Koni Adjustables (wound about half way between hard and soft) and a White line 22mm Front swaybar.
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Running King Springs 1" lower, Koni Adjustables (wound about half way between hard and soft) and a White line 22mm Front swaybar.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 11:56 PM
I was advised by WA Suspensions to use standard rubber for the upper bushes on my LX. They told me that SuperPro recommend rubber upper bushes for street use. I had SuperPro bushes fitted to the lower arms.
WA Suspensions are a SuperPro supplier. I asked them about the Nolathane bushes. They claimed they where too hard and that sometimes they were not a tight fit in the suspension arm. The Nolathane bushes have a pressed outer shell and the SuperPro bushes have a machined outer shell. That said I am sure that if I asked a Nolathane supplier about SuperPro bushes they would tell me that Nolathane are superior.
WA Suspensions are a SuperPro supplier. I asked them about the Nolathane bushes. They claimed they where too hard and that sometimes they were not a tight fit in the suspension arm. The Nolathane bushes have a pressed outer shell and the SuperPro bushes have a machined outer shell. That said I am sure that if I asked a Nolathane supplier about SuperPro bushes they would tell me that Nolathane are superior.
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:05 AM
the point i was trying to make here is that if the car is to be driven on the road then you may find hard bushes, as opposed to soft rubber ones will destroy metal parts on the car and induce cracking and in my opinion are not needed along with the suspension setups needed for racing, and if racing, the car is usually beefed up to win a race, not drive from sydney to melbourne, so shock and spring settings are usually changed to suite track and tyre selection.
remember you should be running the softest spring possible that will control the wheel and then select a shock setting that is not too stiff to control the spring.
if you are not a front runner or you are not looking to squeeze every poofteenth of a second out of the car, the compromise should be on the soft side rather than the hard side.
remember you should be running the softest spring possible that will control the wheel and then select a shock setting that is not too stiff to control the spring.
if you are not a front runner or you are not looking to squeeze every poofteenth of a second out of the car, the compromise should be on the soft side rather than the hard side.
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 11:32 AM
I just want to have a bit of fun with the car, not go out and try and win the Bathurst 1000 in it. So i think i might just settle with rubber bushes.
When i build a race car i will go with the Nolathene bushes or something hard.
Steve
When i build a race car i will go with the Nolathene bushes or something hard.
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:58 PM
Steve, how much did - King Springs 1" lower, Koni Adjustables (wound about half way between hard and soft) and a White line 22mm Front swaybar. - Set you back? It sounds exactly the same as what I want...
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 03:53 PM
I got them through another forum member who used to work at autobarn. I paid $650 for the lot.
Do you know anyone who works at autobarn?
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Do you know anyone who works at autobarn?
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There's a young lady at my local AutoBarn that I'd like to know!Do you know anyone who works at autobarn?
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 07:00 PM
My cousin is good mates with guys at Repco. He used to work there.
Possibly sort somethin out through them?
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Possibly sort somethin out through them?
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 08:18 PM
Give it a go mate. Its so much better to get good stuff at cheap prices...
Peddars quoted me $300 for the front and $310 for the rear Koni Adjustable shocks.
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Peddars quoted me $300 for the front and $310 for the rear Koni Adjustable shocks.
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