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#1 _TORANASS_

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

Just looking at a HQ GTS and would like to know how to tell by the ID tags

Here are the numbers

MODEL: 80469QR
BODY: 72940-S
TRIM: 1867-33Y
PAINT: 567-15334
ENG: L31
TRANS: M40
AXLE: GU2

8N69TCH766848Q

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 12:26 PM

I think a GTS needs 80837 (coupe)
80469 is juts a KIngswood V8 sedan I think

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 01:18 PM

80469 is a Kingswood V8 sedan which could be a GTS with the "XV4" option.

The coupes had different model nos for Monaro, GTS and GTS 350 and the model no ended in 37.

From Dr Terrys book 45 years of Holden.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:27 PM

80469 is a Kingswood V8 sedan which could be a GTS with the "XV4"option.

Whats XV4 ?

Thanks guys

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 09:31 PM

Basically 80469 was used for both V8 Kingswood and GTS Monaro (4 door).

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 11:44 PM

Whats XV4 ?

Its a RPO or Regular? Production Order like XU1 or L34 or A9X, creates a special car on the line based on a standard model.

Other examples are HQ SS (Belmont with a 253, GTS dash and armrests) or the Sandmans (Holden commercials with V8s, bucket seats and GTS dash).

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Edited by JBM, 22 January 2007 - 11:45 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2007 - 01:21 PM

so this car could be a GTS?

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:04 PM

maybe, maybe not. best try the monaro forum for your answer.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:06 AM

sorry to drag up an oldie.

 

i get that 80469 was used for both V8 Kingswood and GTS Monaro , i get that the trim code can also help designate a gts . 

 

my question is , XV4, where is that code found ???



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:43 AM

On the trim plate I think?

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:28 AM

You won't find production option code XV4 on any of the tags.

 

I'm sure Yel327 will know more about this subject.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:04 AM

A9X

 

You will find not all GTS Monaros had this optioned stamped on them

depending on year and where they were made.

But should be stamped on firewall near heater box.

 

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:19 AM

 SS

 

80469  V8 kingswood or GTS 4

trim code for GTS 4  needs to end in either x w y z

 by the numbers 308  juniper metallic 4 door GTS

 

 

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 06:39 AM

Yel327 ....hello.....you are reqd.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:45 AM

XW4 was only seen on the ID plates on 4-door HQ GTSs built in Brisbane. The other plants didn't stamp option pack codes in that era.

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:10 AM

It is a V8 HQ Kingswood sedan, these could be optioned into a number of things including XV4 and XW8 (GTS and GTS350). No different to just about every other sports or performance GMH product of the day where they are special vehicle packages added to a lower model/lux level:

XU1 on GTR.
XV2 on HQ V8 Belmont sedan (SS).
XU3 or XX7 on HQ-HZ Holden, Belmont and Kingswood commercials.
XU2 on LH-LX SLR (SLR5000).
L34 on LH XU2.
A9X on LX SLR and SS.

The trim code on these is the giveaway as the XV4 and XW8 had trims not available on Kingswood. I'm pretty sure 33Y is one of them. On later examples they used a Q in the VIN rather than an N but they still remained as aV8 Kingswood model until HJ when the GTS sedan became a stand alone model WQ69.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:44 AM

very interesting.

 

I'm about to grab a v8 hq kingswood, L31 Trimatic . 80469 on the plate.

 

The car is a good base project that my lad has been looking for , so i'll grab it any way. But be very intersting if its a gts.

 

Watch that set a cat amongst the Welby pidgeon coop.

 

Unfortunately i can't get more detail before i grab it, so its wait and see.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

Normally Kingswood will be E trim, GTS will be be normally X or Y. Being L31 M40 i'd give you better than odds on that it is an XV4. Needs to be later HQ though ie '73-4

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:48 PM

I had an HJ 4 door Monaro. It had a 4 digit (if I remember correctly) number stamped on the firewall.


Don't know if they all have this but my mate's one does. It certainly wasn't (isn't) XV4 stamped there.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:52 PM

its definately 74 HQ,

 

no idea yet on trim . Car is currently a metalic colour, but i'm not convinced its factory colour.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 03:32 PM

I had an HJ 4 door Monaro. It had a 4 digit (if I remember correctly) number stamped on the firewall.


Don't know if they all have this but my mate's one does. It certainly wasn't (isn't) XV4 stamped there.

XV4 was HQ only.

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 04:09 PM

I had an HJ 4 door Monaro. It had a 4 digit (if I remember correctly) number stamped on the firewall.


Don't know if they all have this but my mate's one does. It certainly wasn't (isn't) XV4 stamped there.

 

All Pagewood HQ to HZ circa Commodore release have a number on the firewall, this is how Pagewood tracked the cars through the body and assembly plants. I've never been able to find out how they tracked the foreign bodies though, mainly Elizabeth van and cab-chassis bodies. This firewall number appears on the broadcast sheet, prior to HQ they used the chassis number on the firewall for the same purpose. If you ever pull a Pagewood assembled car apart in very original condition you'll find 2 digit numbers on everything, compare that to the firewall number and be surprised!



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:49 PM

Normally Kingswood will be E trim, GTS will be be normally X or Y. Being L31 M40 i'd give you better than odds on that it is an XV4. Needs to be later HQ though ie '73-4

 

Just checked it up. E, G, J and K trims for HQ KIngswood sedan. W, X, Y and Z for XV4 and XW8. E and X are the most common. G, K, Y and Z are cloth insert.






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