may finally look at a slr 5000 on the w/end that I found out about through a few people, pays to ask, "know of any toranas around the place?"
So story is one owner, slr 5000, faded paint, sat in his back shed for 20 yrs.
might sell it.
thinks it is red/black.
nobody seems interested? as recon he is asking way to much.
so been 4-5 months trying to get an invite to look at it. they say don't even bother, to expensive!
what got my attention is the story also says it came from the factory with flares etc.
from what I can tell is that may make it a L34.
were slr's factory fitted with flares?
If I finally get to look at this thing, I would like to have a better idea at what I am looking at.
So I did a forum search on L34, not much came back.
L34, M21 Gu4 on plates
usual slr numbers
HX engine prefix
flares, bonnet scoop.
gts wheels
twin point dissy
Hq brakes
interior the same?
anything else that is easy to see?
also build dates, were they all in one lot?
how many built?
are the cars documented like A9X's anywhere.
it is a little expensive for a L31 that neads resto, but cheap if it is a L34.
finally, what sort of price are L34's pulling? haven't seen one for sale for a while.
identifying L34
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 01:00 PM
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 01:07 PM
i dont know much about L34's
but im pretty sure they dont come with a centre console.. just a gearstick and boot on the floor!..
id imagine they'd go above 30k..
but yeah.. i dont know much wait for the pro's to answer.
cheers,
Ben.
but im pretty sure they dont come with a centre console.. just a gearstick and boot on the floor!..
id imagine they'd go above 30k..
but yeah.. i dont know much wait for the pro's to answer.
cheers,
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 01:12 PM
Flares could be dealer fitted on SL/R's, but only ever factory on L34's and A9X's.
L34's had HQ Brakes, GTS Wheels and Flares. No bonnet scoop. If it's got L34 on the plates, and they don't look like they've been removed, then chances are that it's an L34. L34's don't have a boot mat or centre console, to keep weight down
Apart from that, I think that the interior is the same as an SL/R 5000.
I THINK that LS1LX sold an L34 recently, not sure what he got for it.
Cheers, and good luck.
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L34's had HQ Brakes, GTS Wheels and Flares. No bonnet scoop. If it's got L34 on the plates, and they don't look like they've been removed, then chances are that it's an L34. L34's don't have a boot mat or centre console, to keep weight down
Apart from that, I think that the interior is the same as an SL/R 5000.I THINK that LS1LX sold an L34 recently, not sure what he got for it.
Cheers, and good luck.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 02:26 PM
Build dates from July to Sept 74 only from memory.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 02:30 PM
Hi Guys.
To add to what Tim has said, the engine number prefix should be HZ (not HX). Also, not only does the ignition system have a twin point dissy, it is a 4-lobe twin pointer with 10 outlets on the dissy cap and 2 ignition coils. The wheel rims are similar the GTS, but have a different offset and there is no bonnet scoop on any LH.
AFAIK L34s were all built in July/August 1974. They were not documented as well as A9Xs because GM-H weren't fully online with their computers in those days. Pre-77 stuff was all manually recorded.
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To add to what Tim has said, the engine number prefix should be HZ (not HX). Also, not only does the ignition system have a twin point dissy, it is a 4-lobe twin pointer with 10 outlets on the dissy cap and 2 ignition coils. The wheel rims are similar the GTS, but have a different offset and there is no bonnet scoop on any LH.
AFAIK L34s were all built in July/August 1974. They were not documented as well as A9Xs because GM-H weren't fully online with their computers in those days. Pre-77 stuff was all manually recorded.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 02:49 PM
All fairly spot on above, although I wouldn't be basing it on the dizzy, as they were a bugger to tune, and mostly got removed from the L34's. One tell tale sign that has been missed, is the washer/bracket on the flares under the hex bolts, L34 was the only car to have it.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 03:15 PM
Tell me where it is and I can let you know if it is or not.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 04:28 PM
Another small but significant thing to look for is small clip type bracket that fits over and under (if that makes sense) the flare bolt holes, these were standard and are generally not supplied with after market flares.
Have a good look at a genuine L34 around the flares and you will see what I mean.
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Have a good look at a genuine L34 around the flares and you will see what I mean.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 05:22 PM
If you need an inspection carried out, I could arrange an A9X club member to have a look for you.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 05:38 PM
Oops sorry Pat, I didn't read the last bit of your post re flares.. Not trying to steal your thunder.
If I were considering buying one I would definitely accept REDA9X's offer of an inspection by one of the A9X boys. Thats probably the very best thing you could do.
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If I were considering buying one I would definitely accept REDA9X's offer of an inspection by one of the A9X boys. Thats probably the very best thing you could do.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 05:49 PM
And Good Luck hope its a real one and you score a deal 
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 07:31 PM
A pic explaining this would be nice ?One tell tale sign that has been missed, is the washer/bracket on the flares under the hex bolts, L34 was the only car to have it.
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 07:02 PM
Did all L34's have the twin coil twin point dissy ???
I havent picked up all my L34 bits yet, but i havent spotted a dissy in the pile yet, hopefully its in there somewhere.
I havent picked up all my L34 bits yet, but i havent spotted a dissy in the pile yet, hopefully its in there somewhere.
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 07:14 PM
Yes twin point was standard
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 08:41 PM
Well if you didnt get the dizzy its going to cost you over $2500 , and as an owner that has looked into them a lot most of the things are correct but you are all forgeting the front end it has 2 little items that no slr has , if you want a photo i am sure one can be dug up , also i have noticed lately a lot about factory fitted flares to a slr , are you sure about that as only l34 had them done and they were taken up the road to another shop and done not done by GMH and you can tell if they are done properly as L34 standard , i have researched this a lot and cant find any mention about any other car haveing them fitted , and a lot of the young ones are quoteing this as gospel where i dont beleive it to be trueas i cant remember any body getting one with flares from factory , i know of people that had them fitted but if it came from factory with flares it was a L34 or A9x ,TREX
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:05 PM
Round headlights on L34
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:13 PM
From factory yes, but a shit to tune, so most of em have been replaced with either a single point/coil dizzy or electronic, so not really a good indicator.Did all L34's have the twin coil twin point dissy ???
If the car's not too far away, happy to have a look for anybody, I only have eyes for LH's. I will be in Sydney/Brisbane over the next couple of weeks if that helps.
The clips, can't explain as I don't have a pic of them, and nobody that I'm aware of makes repro ones. I have seen the odd respray L34 that has new flares fitted, and these items lost, so even that is not enough to verify that it's an L34. Really need to know what your looking for. Then you also need to verify that it is an L34 engine, which is virtually all the L34 is, no L34, then just another LH SL/R 5000.
They tried to sell me my car as an L34, but I knew it wasn't. Was stoked that it was actually an SL/R 5000 though.
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:17 PM
Mine has round headlights, but it aint an L34. Very easy to change.Round headlights on L34
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 11:02 PM
Well not really just a non matching numbers car.also need to verify that it is an L34 engine, which is virtually all the L34 is, no L34, then just another LH SL/R 5000.
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No HZ prefix block no flare clips etc etc but tags reading L34 and matching the vin and body number AND chassis stamp then its a L34.
If it has the block and all the other bits and pieces then that adds to the value but does not make it just another LH SLR 5000.
If hes is asking to much for a SLR but a good price for a L34 (and you dont know what a good price is) then I would guess he knows its just a SLR but trying to pass it off as something special.( or just does not really want to sell it)
Sound like your info is all second hand, and this will not help as a lot off people believe SLR should have flares therefore they MUST be factory fitted.
All the tell tale signs are easy to replicate but not a SET of matching numbers
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A LOT more differences than just the engine.
Different diff housing and axles, front end, fuel line, manual choke on carby,
bigger brakes, and other little mods.
The L34 block had extra cast ribbing on the back of the block, this was brought over to the rest of the 308 engines.
Different diff housing and axles, front end, fuel line, manual choke on carby,
bigger brakes, and other little mods.
The L34 block had extra cast ribbing on the back of the block, this was brought over to the rest of the 308 engines.
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Sorry..I was a bit out on build dates..May to Aug 74....close though!
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