hello guys/ girls i have looked through the the forums and couldnt find a real lot on mini tubs and what is needed to carry this out? does it need suspension mods diff shortening(im looking to get a 9 inch and getting it shortened) and anything else. can it be done at home i have some handy contacts, thought id ask what you guys think before contacting them. cheers guys p.s im looking to do this work on an LC if that helps.
LC torana tubbing
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Posted 10 April 2007 - 10:19 PM
This is my lc so far. There is a 65-70mm band which is over lapped by 20mm each side, then will be stiched welded in. Going to have tub welded in this week. Done all myself so far. A mate is going to weld it for me. Then i will make other fill-in bits and have them tig welded for a better and nicer job. Engineer came for a look 2wks ago and liked 
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:16 AM
what have you done to the front section lakeside??
from my experience theres more of a problem to the front of the wheel arch then the back...
from my experience theres more of a problem to the front of the wheel arch then the back...
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:16 AM
i depends if you just want width or you want height and width.
to me small diameter wide tyres look dicky, i prefer a nice tall wide tyre but thet involves the complete removal of the original tub and lengthening of the guards.
its a big job but nothing else looks as tough
to me small diameter wide tyres look dicky, i prefer a nice tall wide tyre but thet involves the complete removal of the original tub and lengthening of the guards.
its a big job but nothing else looks as tough
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:17 PM
I was told that that was called 'square shouldering' of the std tubs lakeside.
coolpix: Do you have a certain size wheel & tyre/diameter that you want to run & for what purposes do you want to use the car for as it can save you money if don't need coil-overs.
coolpix: Do you have a certain size wheel & tyre/diameter that you want to run & for what purposes do you want to use the car for as it can save you money if don't need coil-overs.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:17 PM
thanks alots guy for the interest in my post. i would like to use 235 maybe 245 if i could get away with it. how much are coil overs? I would love to know how much it would cost to get some mini-tubs done or could they be done at home? i have some handy mate what is involved in doing this? and maybe even shortening a nine inch is there much involved? thanks alot guys you have been great
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:25 PM
Nine inch go to a proper place other than the backyard....Other than the fact they have jigs and what not to set up the brackets....
I had 265s on mine with the way lakeside is doing..im sure i could nearly have fitted a 275...
Seeing as the mini tub question comes up alot does anyone want me to transfer an article from a torana magazine i have to a webpage. It details how to mini tub as done by Andrews Race cars. Some of you guys may have read it before.
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I had 265s on mine with the way lakeside is doing..im sure i could nearly have fitted a 275...
Seeing as the mini tub question comes up alot does anyone want me to transfer an article from a torana magazine i have to a webpage. It details how to mini tub as done by Andrews Race cars. Some of you guys may have read it before.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:48 PM
With the right offset rim and a little shorter diff a 235 would be no prob for a standard tub
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:15 PM
ok great i was just thinking 235-245 for the fact i didnt really know how big you could go. 265-275 is even better. do you have a shortened diff and coil overs to achive this width? that would be fantastic is you could post that artical im sure you would be helping lot of people not just myself. cheers
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:18 PM
send it to me and i'll put it upNine inch go to a proper place other than the backyard....Other than the fact they have jigs and what not to set up the brackets....
I had 265s on mine with the way lakeside is doing..im sure i could nearly have fitted a 275...
Seeing as the mini tub question comes up alot does anyone want me to transfer an article from a torana magazine i have to a webpage. It details how to mini tub as done by Andrews Race cars. Some of you guys may have read it before.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:42 PM
I have just had my LJ mini tubbed not square sholdered as lakeside has shown but a full band all the way to the rails i have a 275 in there with stacks of room a 295 would be no prob you can relocate your shocks you dont have to go coil overs as now they are banned in NSW
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:49 PM
no there not. my car is going through engineers now with them 
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:51 PM
I was told no coilovers and no full cages which engineer you use moot
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:55 PM
man that would be great if u dont mind me asking how much was it to get that done? have you go any pictures of it i would love to see them? where was the shock relocated too? can all this be done at home?
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 09:03 PM
Got no pics atm car is still at shop tubs were $1800 the shocks will be relocated on the inside of trailing arms but i want to have coil overs il be on the phone tommorrow as moot is getting his engineered atm i would like the same
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 09:13 PM
Here's a couple pics of mine. tubbed to rail,relocated shocks,275 tyre
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 09:35 PM
your help has been great guys! just get it all straight!
1) if i just square the standard tub off which size wheel will i get in there and do i relocate the shock?
2) do i need to get a shortened diff to achive wider wheels/ tyres?
As mentioned before i would like to get round 245 in there what is required for this? and also for 275's? thanx alot guys im picking up my lc on friday all the body work done and a a coat of the vy ss blue( royal blue ) im unsure on the real name. will post some pictures very soon
1) if i just square the standard tub off which size wheel will i get in there and do i relocate the shock?
2) do i need to get a shortened diff to achive wider wheels/ tyres?
As mentioned before i would like to get round 245 in there what is required for this? and also for 275's? thanx alot guys im picking up my lc on friday all the body work done and a a coat of the vy ss blue( royal blue ) im unsure on the real name. will post some pictures very soon
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:27 PM
With the coil-overs its said that they cant enter into the boot unless the are boxed in & fully sealed,I have mine mounted underneath just in case.The problem with 6pt cages is they want to make the car registered as a '2 seater' & the front cage must meet clearance & visual requirements which is pretty hard,almost impossible in a lil torry.
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 07:19 AM
john at consultmotive at peakhurst.I was told no coilovers and no full cages which engineer you use moot
the cage thing went out in october last year.i have a 6 point chromly cage that i'm cutting out tomorrow night because i got stuck in the middle of changes.not happy.
still allowed 4 point though.
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 03:50 PM
How fast can you go at WSID with a 4 point cage?
I remember reading that DWILZ wth the v6 twin turbo vs was allowed to run 10's with a bolt in 6 point bolt in cage done by Mood Motorsports,after it ran 9's he had to have it welded in.Think he got permiision through andra first.
I remember reading that DWILZ wth the v6 twin turbo vs was allowed to run 10's with a bolt in 6 point bolt in cage done by Mood Motorsports,after it ran 9's he had to have it welded in.Think he got permiision through andra first.
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:35 PM
sorry to bring this up again, i did a quick mod to my car today that will help with fitting slighty larger tyres. i noticed the first thing that seems to cause a problem is the mount for the seat belt, so i moved it:
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start
https://cache.gmh-to...ltmountmod2.jpg
drill spot welds and used a coal chisel to remove it.
https://cache.gmh-to...ltmountmod3.jpg
large hole i had after last step
https://cache.gmh-to...ltmountmod4.jpg
and finnished product, plate over large hole i made with the chisel, and origional belt mount relocated to the front of the wheel arch where it wont cause any dramas wtih the 235/60/14's i'll be running.
hope this helps someone
https://cache.gmh-to...ltmountmod1.jpg
start
https://cache.gmh-to...ltmountmod2.jpg
drill spot welds and used a coal chisel to remove it.
https://cache.gmh-to...ltmountmod3.jpg
large hole i had after last step
https://cache.gmh-to...ltmountmod4.jpg
and finnished product, plate over large hole i made with the chisel, and origional belt mount relocated to the front of the wheel arch where it wont cause any dramas wtih the 235/60/14's i'll be running.
hope this helps someone
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