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#1 _UCV80_

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 07:03 PM

i have a nice velour roof lining half in my torana... i have got all the metal bars in place and perfect... just want to know how i can get it under the rubber on front and rear windows, any special techniques, would preffer to keep windows in :)


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Posted 26 January 2006 - 08:49 PM

No quick way to a good job.
Removal would be advised here I beleive.
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 09:07 AM

Hi ToranaZ, I used to do a lot of these a loooooong time ago.

RACV MAN is right, the best way is to remove glass & rubber.

If you dont have the time, I used to use a little bit of spray glue
on the last 2 inches or so of lining, and I made up a 'tool' using
a really old spoon with a smooth rounded end on the handle bit.

It had a couple of bends in it that I did with a pair of pliers.

Sounds agricultural!!! but it worked. Between the spray glue
and the small amount tucked under the rubber it held fine.

You might want to trim the velour as close as possible,
allowing for about an inch in/under the rubber.

But if you had the time....pull the glass out. That way you can stretch
the velour nice and tight over and around the metalwork.
(again with spray glue)

Hope this helps, Leakey

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 09:26 AM

no way i can think of getting it in without pulling out the glass.. youll never get it perfect.
Off to supercheap, but some windscreen sealant, and that spray glue crap, cant remember what its called.. its not that hard to get the screens back in, bit of rope and 2 people is all it takes.

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 08:24 PM

3M make a good, general purpose spray glue.

Its about $22 a can and has a few extra nozles in the lid.

Most hardware types have it.

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 10:17 PM

the glue i got was $5 from the hypermarket.. $0.40 for a paintbrush, very easy.

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 01:03 AM

iv been told is a difficult job to take windows out and its common for them to crack / smash on removal.

will i be able to do it safly?

will i need new rubber or can i use previous?

after a closer look i think it would be a long massive job if i dont take them out..

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 05:59 AM

also a good chance to check for rust under the rubbers while out... in the old days we used to sit back against the seat and basically kick them out gently near the edges dont boot in the middle

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 07:17 AM

"Boot them out" is O.K. for zone toughend which rear screens generally are. But if you wan't to save the front screen (more than likely laminated)I would cut the rubber and replace it. Having said that I would price the rubber and the screen first and see which is cheaper to replace. Or maybe a second hand rubber and goo.
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Posted 28 January 2006 - 10:30 AM

Nathan,
Its a lot easier to take the glass out.
Loosent eh rubber and goo with a small knife, blade or screw driver. Once you have it all loose just psh the glass out. Start in one corner and work down the sides. Once it starts it will just follow. If you carefull enough you could use the same rubber but you would have to make sure it is clear of the good so the screen fits in properly again.

We had to do the front and back screens in the hatch when we did mine. and the lining went in ok. its not perfect but its ok.

Let us know how u go if your stuck i might be able to pop out at some stage.

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Posted 29 January 2006 - 03:12 PM

Easiest way to remove the windscreen is to get 2 blade screwdrivers first. starting at one of the top corners, apply pressure to the windscreen close to the edge and lever the inside rubber lip by sticking the screwdriver in behind the rubber. Pivot the screwdriver towards you and around the lip that the rubber slips over. Holding the first screwdriver there, do the same with the other screwdriver. Work your way along the top first, pushing gently with your foot so you don't crack the glass. It is reasonably easy to get the windscreen out without cracking it if the windscreen is perfect, no stone chips or cracks. Any small cracks or stone chips makes it almost impossible to remove without creating more cracks. If you are going to use the rubber and windscreen again, refit the rubber to the windscreen, if you pulled them apart to start with. Run some rubber grease around the sill, this will make it easier to pull back in. Now, starting at the bottom of the windscreen in the centre and leaving a couple of inches hanging out, run a piece of cord e.g. mower cord, electric wire, anything that is no more than a couple of millimetres thick, around the rubber, pushing it right into the rubber channel. When you get back to were you started, overlap the 2, leaving some of the end hanging out. Place the windscreen back onto the car, lining it up as close as possible to where it should sit. Have someone hold the windscreen while you pull the cord out towards yourself. The person holding the windscreen should push gently on the outside of the windscreen near where your pulling the cord out. When the cord is removed, run around the rubber, making sure it is sitting correctly. You should be all done now.

Sorry about the long reply but some inexperienced people think its an easy job. And booting them out is not an option if you want to keep the windscreen intact.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 11:08 AM

ok, thanx heaps for the info guys... i think ill pull winscreen out today

Cheers :spoton:

is it hard to them back in?


Cheers,
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Posted 30 January 2006 - 06:36 PM

if you follow what 2doorterror wrote, and you have someone helping you, it shouldnt too hard, took me about 5 mins with another guy to get mine in.

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 11:44 AM

How did ya go with the windscreen?

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 02:40 PM

hey, started pulling the rear one out, got a bit worried as i cant afford new rubber or glass, didnt have anyone to help me get it out, so i made this tool up to push the lining right up under the rubber and behind the metal, and i got it in perfect, and its really tight and secure, it looks great,

if i ever do another project the windows will definatly come out, but for this time i think ill just leave them... least i know how to do it next time with the above replys,

thanx heaps,
nathan

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 02:58 PM

Rear screen is the easiest. As said above, it's the front screen that is more difficult as it is laminated (mostly anyways). We cracked BMXer's front screen, oops.

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 03:04 PM

ToranaZ, did you make the 'tool' from a spoon like I did?!!

Worked a gem.

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 03:40 PM

a flat head screw driver with the end cut off, and electrical tape taped around the tip to protect the lining,

maybe the spoon idea could of been better, which end of the spood did u use?

,nathan

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 05:30 PM

either way, glad you got it in easily!

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 06:29 PM

Cheers,

one other thing, how do i get those stripes that go around the front and rear windowns back on, i took them off but can get then back on, sprayed them in blue print while there off.

nathan,




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